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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 21- "Too Bitter Gavv" Discussion
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02-06-2025, 10:21 AM
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Zolda
Nyelv eyes that look cautious @ 06:54 and @ 07:21 and his slightly nervous attempt @ 07:24 at playing dumb and trying to deflect the blame could be the signs that he's as equally surprised at Komel's unknown cause of death as Lango and Glotta are, and has just realized that there could be another member of Stomach corporation who has been operating in incognito mode all this time, and that member is definitely not Lango, Glotta, Shita/Jeebh, nor Shouma, let alone the grunt part-timers.
I might've overestimated Nyelve last week, since he looks as surprised as his older siblings about Lakia's betrayal. However, I find it pretty incredulous that Lango is trying to hold Nyelve partially culpable for conducting the Granute remodification surgery, even though that's literally part of his job. He wasn't even involved in hiring Lakia. While we know that Nyelve is totally to blame for creating Vram, Lango doesn't, so the accusation is weak and petty.
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Leo Novum
Humans are such weaklings, always needing help? Lakia, the only interaction you've had with humans is by drugging and kidnapping them. You haven't helped a single one. Sure, you may be stronger than a human being but you have only just begun to turn against the Stomach corporation.
Takeshi, a victim of Granute Chooul, was among the Hitopresses that Gavv and Vram rescued from the factory, so we must give credit to Lakia for helping to save at least one person who he hadn't abducted.
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Kiwami
Might it?s just formatting for the sake of fitting him in though, but I like seeing him chill with the others regardless.
Lakia thinks he's too cool to join in their dance.
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Kiwami
But he's cola flavored actually! I quite like that, because all my life I?ve been snacking on those cola bottle gummies from Haribo, they?re really good!]
I enjoy cola-flavored stuff as well, so Sparkingummy looks a lot more delicious to me than Poppingummy.
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Originally Posted by
Mesnick
I was thinking about criticizing Hanto for getting Sachika involved in what was happening by telling her that Shouma was Granute, but in fact, here he did the most correct thing.It?s too dangerous to leave her in the dark, plus Hanto didn?t say a word about the riders. If they decide to leave Sachika in the dark, then we can simply blame everything on Bitter Gavv.
Good point. While it's unfortunate that Hanto's sudden confession may cause misunderstanding between Shouma and Sachika, I can accept that Hanto was acting based on information that seemed to incriminate Shouma, so prioritizing Sachika's welfare was the correct choice at the time. I guess that's why the Bitter Gavv impostor arc seems like it'll conclude quickly, since the real consequence will be Sachika dealing with the truth. She seems to be a decent judge of character, like figuring out Niwa was a catfish, so I think she'll realize that Shouma's goodness is genuine.
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DreadBringer
Shoma fears revealing his secret to Sachika, but he knows that Hanto has intense hatred for the Granutes, which he expressed to Dente earlier. Shoma views Sachika almost like an angel for taking him in. Naturally, Hanto also cares about Sachika, leading to the inevitable situation where Sachika discovers from Hanto that Shoma is a Granute, warning her not to let him in when he returns home. Even if Shoma tries to hide this truth, others may expose him.
Shouma was right to presume that it would only be a matter of time until Sachika found out his secret from somebody else, but alas, he still couldn't bring himself to properly explain his situation and now it looks even more incriminating for him due to being framed by Bitter Gavv. The critical problem for Shouma is that he worries about not being trusted, so he doesn't trust his friends with the truth either, which makes him look even more untrustworthy and now he's experiencing the consequences of his lies and half-truths. He seriously needs to confess about everything now.
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Originally Posted by
Eclipyon
So, it appears that Shoma's emotional state is also essential for spawning a Gochizo, as he fails to produce a new Gochizo while eating a macaron in a down state.
Yep, that was my deduction as well. Even the highest quality food tastes weak when you feel terrible inside.
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
It's rather touching that Hanto's experiences as a freelance writer allow him to keep such a clear head even in situations like this. In real life, it can be pretty hard to put personal passions aside and focus on finding out the facts first, and as the secondary hero in a Kamen Rider show, regularly failing to do that is basically outright
expected
. Time and again, though, Hanto is always actively trying to be a better version of himself, and I seriously respect that about the guy.
Shioya would surely be proud to see Hanto calmly and sequentially put the pieces together like a real journalist. It's rewarding that Hanto consistently proves our faith in him is totally justified, making him another reasonable Secondary like Geiz and Nago who also realized on their own that their Primary was not evil.
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