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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 19- "The Secret Bittersweet Flavor of Pudding!" Discussion
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02-09-2025, 11:23 AM
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Zolda
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Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 378
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mesnick
But in the memories with kid Shouma there are no dates indicated. The only thing we can take as a starting point is that Hanto?s mother was kidnapped 18 years ago. If we accept that the Wolf Granute from the flashback is not Shouma, but another patient, and the flashback itself is a memory of the red Gavv, then Shouma does not have to age at all. This, by the way, is partly supported by the fact that the flashback about Hanto?s mother at the factory did not bring a headache, unlike the memory about her abduction.
Memories about Kid Shouma do have no date/timestamp, but the clothes worn by Hanto's mom when she was kidnapped by the elusive wolf Granute (like shown in Hanto's very first flashback scene in episode 2 from @ 21:12-21:29) and the clothes worn by Hanto's mom when she encountered Kid Shouma for the first time (like shown in Shouma's very first flashback scene that involved Hanto's mom in episode 20 from @ 12:13-12:36) are virtually identical, which means that those 2 events (the event when Hanto's mom was kidnapped by the elusive wolf Granute and the event when she encountered Kid Shouma for the first time) happened at a very close time range, if not at the same day. The question about how far the time gap between those 2 events (the event when Hanto's mom was kidnapped by the elusive wolf Granute and the event when she encountered Kid Shouma for the first time) would very likely be answered in episode 23 when a flashback scene would likely be shown where Lango ordered his factory workers to
finally
kill Hanto's mom (and likely other kidnapped humans as well) by drowning before processing her into Dark Snack spice, right in front of Kid Shouma's two eyes like I hypothesized in my post in episode 22 thread
here
.
Gavv 02 @ 21:12
Gavv 02 @ 21:16
Gavv 20 @ 12.20
I've hypothesized about the elusive Wolf Granute being Kid Shouma in berserk mode since my post in episode 6(!) thread
here
due to it having a red Gavv as well (albeit natural/unmodified), although in the same post I also mentioned the obvious weird fact that the elusive Wolf Granute had an adult-size body much much
much
bigger than Kid Shouma's body. Also, in my post in episode 3(!) thread
here
I did mention the possibility of the existence of another Granute who had a red Gavv like Shouma does, though not necessary a human-Granute hybrid. In the same post I also mentioned the possibility of the elusive Wolf Granute being a 100% normal/pure-blood Granute (not a human-Granute hybrid) but used the prototype/trial version of the red Gavv, and the final version is the one implanted by Dente into Shouma's body. The question about the real identity, whereabouts, and the fate of the elusive Wolf Granute who kidnapped Hanto's mom 18 years ago would also likely be answered in episode 23 or in the next episodes before 30.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Sh Ranger
You have no historical basis for this. As far as I can recall, Gotchard is the only season with a co-protagonist in place of an official heroine and so far it has been successful. I see no reason why that would change in the future.
Like I stated in my post in KR Gotchard's thread
here
:
"I call a spade a spade, a knife a knife. I call a failure a failure, and I'm afraid that Gotchard fits the description of a failure. I won't be surprised if 5, 10, or 20 years later all my criticisms (about Gotchard, (God forbid) Geats, Revice, KR Outsiders, etc.) are proven to be 1000% bullshit. I'm aware of the possibility that I may have been bullshitting and lying to myself and the world. On the other hand, if reality prove 20 years later that my criticisms are correct, I
also
won't be surprised... at all."
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Sh Ranger
Hmm, I see. Well, thanks for clearing that up. Spares me the waste of time of continuing a debate against someone who doesn't take his opponent seriously.
Bruuuhhh... Whaaattt???
I took your arguments very very
very
seriously. That's why I bothered to elaborate my refutation to all your wrong points by providing many timestamps
and
screenshots! The only person who doesn't take your arguments seriously is the person you see in the mirror. The person you see in the mirror is the one who made arguments based on
faulty reasoning
,
straw man arguments
, and or just
being plain wrong
.
When cornered, you usually resorted to straw man arguments, and now you've just also resorted to ad hominem arguments. The more I interact with you, the more you convince me that you have no intention at all to engage in a debate by using critical thinking, logic, rationality, and common sense. The more I interact with you, the more you convince me that your only intentions are to defend the indefensible and to
mis
understand reality.
Since you've just pretty much demonstrated that you have no interest at all in engaging in a debate by using critical thinking, logic, rationality, and common sense, I must stop my response here and I consider this my final response.
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