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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 22- "The Truth Is Sweet And Bitter!" Discussion
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02-15-2025, 10:49 AM
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Zolda
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Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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I have several new hypotheses:
- So far, the normal Granutes of the week have pinkish/brownish Gavv, and none of them have red Gavv. The elusive Wolf Granute had a red Gavv because he was likely another human-Granute hybrid similar to Shouma's, and he worked as one of Stomach's part-timers. But why did the elusive Wolf Granute look like a normal Granute, only with a red Gavv? If he was a human-Granute hybrid, does it mean that he also had a human form, just like Shouma does? And, if he was a human-Granute hybrid yet had a full Granute form, then does it mean that Shouma also has a full Granute form too?
- Since Hanto's mom was actually fine and pretty much unharmed after being kidnapped by the elusive Wolf Granute, it's very likely that he did his crime with 100% full awareness (though maybe still under the command of Lango or another Stomach elite, or even Dente(!)), not due to being in a berserk state like I previously hypothesized.
- Like I mentioned in my first post, as shown in the preview section @ 23:08, based on the color scheme, the Chocold RG's are very likely produced by Dark Shouma, and Kenzou give them to Hanto to manipulate him further. But if they're indeed produced by Dark Shouma, then doesn't it mean that giving them to Hanto will fully expose the connection between Kenzou and Dark Shouma?
Hanto could simply ask Shouma to confirm whether or not the Chocold RG's were produced by Shouma, and Shouma (being the only sole producer of RG's prior to Dark Shouma's appearance) would immediately know if those strange-looking RG's were his products. If Shouma told Hanto that he never produced such strange-looking RG's, then Hanto (if he still has normal, healthy, and well-functioning logic, rationality, and common sense) would immediately be able to conclude that those RG's were produced by Dark Shouma. If Hanto knows that those RG's were produced by Dark Shouma, a known villain, then Kenzou's plan to manipulate him further is a very very
very
stupid plan that has already failed even before execution. And there's also the other possibility that those RG's were produced by Nyelv (via a still unknown method like he did with the Doppudding and Purujelly RG's), which is also bad because it exposes the connection between Kenzou and Nyelv. Since Hanto's problem with Shouma is pretty much resolved, if Hanto needs a stronger RG, then he could just borrow it from Shouma, and he'd no need to rely on Kenzou as a middleman giving him RG's anymore, since all the RG's from Kenzou are stolen from Shouma anyway. If my hypothesis is true (that the Chocold RG's were produced by Dark Shouma and they're used by Kenzou to manipulate Hanto) and Hanto is
still
fooled by Kenzou's stupid plan and decide to use the dangerous Chocold RG's and let himself be manipulated by Kenzou again, then Hanto will have succeeded in demonstrating that he's the stupidest second Rider in this franchise.
Gavv 22 @ 23.08
- A further elaboration of my hypothesis above is that if Hanto does end up using the Chocold RG's to transform into KR Valen's dark rider form, then there's a possibility that the upgrade form and or final form for KR Valen are also granted by RG's produced by Dark Shouma. There's even the possibility that there could be one RG or power-up device that would be shared between Dark Shouma/KR Bitter Gavv (or other Granutes who could be the next KR Bitter Gavv) and Hanto/KR Valen's dark Rider form in upgrade form (and or final form). Perhaps that RG or power-up device would be used by Jeebh who would transform as the final Granute who is infected with Dark Shouma's cells (like I hypothesized in my posts in episode 21 thread
here
and in episode 22 thread
here
), though he may not ultimately use the Henshin Belt Bitter Gavv, which opens the possibility of the appearance of a new Premium Bandai-exclusive Driver, haha.
- Yet
another
elaboration of my hypothesis above is that Hanto's use of the Chocold RG's
and
the Granute internal organ implanted inside his body will
finally
cause his human DNA to mutate into Granute DNA like I've hypothesized in my post in episode 7 thread
here
.
- How was Kenzou (if he's indeed the one who created Dark Shouma as a clone of Shouma) able to create a copy of Shouma's red Gavv/Henshin Belt Gavv? Shouma's red Gavv/Henshin Belt Gavv is a prosthetic device (just like the Stomach Drivers), not an organ, so Kenzou should not be able to copy it by cloning Shouma's cells. Did Nyelv give him Dente's schematics of Shouma's Henshin Belt Gavv? There's no reason for for Nyelv to allow Kenzou to access Dente's schematics of Shouma's Henshin Belt Gavv because Kenzou is only responsible for developing the Valen Buster (and manipulating Hanto).
- I forgot to mention that the most likely endgame of Kenzou's plan is not only creating the ultimate Driver, but also creating the ultimate Driver that would allow a human to transform into a Rider
without
even requiring the Granute internal organ to be implanted inside his body. So yeah, his motivation is likely similar to Sengoku Ryoma/KR Duke who was also a genius scientist with no skin in the game who only wanted to consolidate the most power for himself without exposing himself to any form of risk. He, like Sengoku Ryoma, only wants to get the end product, and manipulate other people (Hanto, Lage 9, Shouma, and Dark Shouma, especially Hanto; or in Sengoku Ryoma's case, the Beat Riders, especially Kaito Kumon/KR Baron) to be used as pawns. He, like Sengoku Ryoma, only wants to get the prize without getting himself dirty. The scene of Hanto/KR Valen in his dark form killing Kenzou/KR Bake(?) could be similar to how Kaito Kumon/KR Baron in his Lord Baron kaijin form killed Sengoku Ryoma/KR Duke. This point also adds another explanation to the possibility of Hanto's human DNA mutating into Granute DNA like I mentioned above.
- I also forgot to mention that in the preview section @ 23:12, behind Lango is likely shown at least one human corpse laying on a platform, ready to be processed into Dark Snack spice. That human was another human who was killed by drowning like I mentioned in my first post above, and Hanto's mom was the next human in line to be killed. In my post in episode 12 thread
here
I asked who told Kid Shouma the crucial details of the Dark Snack production. From this preview scene, it's likely the answer is clear: Lango the stupid CEO. In my post in episode 20 thread
here
I asked who allowed Kid Shouma to freely roam inside the Dark Snack factory and get near the kidnapped humans such as Hanto's mom, and who even allowed Hanto's mom (an obvious hostage) to freely roam inside the factory in the first place. Once again, from this preview scene, it's likely the answer is clear: Lango the stupid CEO villain. So yeah, Kid Shouma was likely able to encounter Hanto's mom simply due to Lango's utter stupidity as a CEO who didn't bother to keep the factory sterile out of external interferences (like Kid Shouma) who posed the risk of messing with the Dark Snack production line (and even leaking the internal secrets of Stomach's illegal drug factory). As usual in this story, one of the main laws of atrocious writing applies:
No stupidity = no plots
.
Gavv 22 @ 23.12
- Why haven't the Granute police do anything to deal with Stomach's criminal operation? I find it really really
really
weird that it's pretty much halfway in the story, but there's not even the slightest activity from the Granute police/law enforcement, except the very brief statement mentioned by Lango the stupid CEO villain in episode 5 @ 04:53 when he said that he was concerned that the Granute government might've cracked down on Stomach's illegal drug operation. Apart from that, the story has never hinted any investigative activity by the Granute police/law enforcement. None. Nada. Nothing.
Nothing
. The Stomach corporation is not only involved in manufacturing the Dark Snacks as a form of novel, luxury drugs, but they've also dealt in trafficking. When kidnapping humans from the human world and smuggling them into the Granute world, they've dealt in human trafficking, and when smuggling the Granute part-timers out of their their homeworld into the human world, they've also dealt in *drum roll* *wait for it* *drum roll*
Granute
trafficking! What Stomach corporation is doing is the textbook definition of a drug cartel dealing in a 2-way human trafficking operation! So many junkie Granutes have been mysteriously missing (and or dead, such as in Komel's case) from their society in 2 decades(!), and the Granute police/law enforcement authority hasn't done nothing to investigate it?
And worse, like I mentioned in my post in episode 19 thread
here
, if Lage 9, a mere ordinary civilian with virtually zero detective/investigative skills, was able to connect the dots and trace the name Dark Snacks to Stomach corporation in just several months, then the Granute police should've had done 1.000.000x more than what he did. No friggin' way the Granute police/law enforcement authority are still in the dark after 2 decades of Stomach's Dark Snack operation.
- Mmmmmaaaaayyyyybbbbbeeeee...
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