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Originally Posted by Eclipyon

They're not dead. In fact, that place is implied to be where Sae has escaped from. Otherwise, why would she assume that this is where Shoma is from? Based on Lango's comment about how they need to figure out a new storing method, this is most likely how captured humans are held before the Hitopress method are invented.

Yeah, there's no way they're dead at the time. Sae, who we can believe to be a good mother, wouldn't bluntly ask a kid she just met to identify a dead body that might be the kid's mother.

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Originally Posted by Eclipyon

Dude, she was clearly shown to be dissolving...

I have to wonder how they even extract the human protein from the acid vat. Dark Snacks sound pretty gross.

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

Oh so we're getting multiple Bitter Gavv'? That's a fun idea. I kind of wanted to see one adapting, learning and gaining a personality, but that can happen still, we will just cycle through a few for now I guess.

Reminds me of the Makoto doppelgangers from Ghost.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

It turns out that Sae was captured during Hanto's childhood and, and not eaten, thus she was also converted into Dark Treats. Shoma was also a child who, without realizing it, stopped Sae in her tracks, leading Shoma to blame himself for Sae's death. He witnessed both main Riders' mothers die?his own and Hanto's. Sae was trying to be noble by attempting to help what she believed was another kidnapping victim escape, but she rather ditched Shoma upon discovering that he was their sibling.

And Shouma continued to live in the same mansion as his "Lango nii-san" for 18 years after watching him coldly murder Sae. Sachika's right, he escaped from Hell, just like Makoto did.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Additionally, there is a reveal regarding the origin of Dark Treats. Dente's older brother, Zomb, is responsible for collecting the ingredients for Dark Treats, while Dente works with what is provided. Zomb sees an opportunity to rule the world with the Dark Treats, clearly the bigger baddie, whereas Dente likely didn't realize that humans are the ingredients and eventually quit. Although Rakia initially reacts violently towards Dente for obvious reasons, he seems to act more rationally compared to even Hanto afterwards, as someone naturally calm and collected.

Seems like Dente also feels guilty about his accidental role in human trafficking and provoked Lakia in to attacking him to get what he feels like he deserves. Makes me wonder if Bouche only took over the business to limit the threat to humans. Unfortunately, his sadistic first son Lango became the next Zombu.

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

Not that he actually is, of course. Far from any kind of sidekick, Lakia is an independent character with his own strongly held motivations and beliefs, and just like Hanto, that's what the gap that forms between Shouma and him comes down to. Less "amusing", because it'd be nice to see all these people just get along smoothly, but definitely very entertaining, because watching all these well-developed characters intertwine with one another always gets me excited to see where things will go next.

Hanto's former prejudice was a domestic problem but never really an obstacle to his fights as Valen, since all the Granutes he fought were actually bad guys. Whereas Lakia's apathy towards humans, in a world dominated by humans, is totally an obstacle for Gavv's and Vram's synchronization. His heart has been thawed enough to care about humans in his situation like Mitarai, but not enough to care about them in general, which he'll need to work on. At least for now, he needs to accept that Shouma will always put saving people first, revenge second. If Lakia wants a chance at the latter, he needs to co-operate with the former.

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Originally Posted by Layton13

Gavv kinda confuses me.

I think it's very well written, its cast behaves in-character, and they act very naturally from what is established of them, but... I think that may be a bad thing? At least for me?

There is so much interesting opportunities the show just never really capitalizes on because it takes the logical and clean way out.

Aka, nothing interesting really happens.

It's basically the best show I have been utterly bored by, and it is such a weird position to be in.

That's a common reception for Komura shows. She's great at writing dynamic consistent characters, but her plots aren't so memorable. This worked out for Zenkaiger's formula though, due to each episode having a unique flavor in addition to the main plot.