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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 28- "Chocolate Frappe of Bonds!" Dicussion
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
I didn't notice the straw on Valen Frappe until seeing him in action. It kind of looks like a muffler that some Riders have, but in a way that compliments his motif. Now Valen has truly gained the power to fight alongside Gavv as his equal. This is an awesome suit and I love how it was created by the strong bond between Hanto and Shouma!
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
Yeah, the belt is going to take some getting used to. From a merchandising perspective, it's convenient for Valen fans who are also Vram fans, I guess, but on a visual storytelling level, I'm still having trouble accepting it. In terms of the show's lore and all that, it admittedly more than checks out, but I can't help getting a little hung up on how Hanto's new transformation device is a straight copy of something made by the
other
mad scientist responsible for Valen's tragic origin. Or, heck, wait -- maybe that's actually
better
than if it was something completely new? Gonna have to think on this one some more!
I guess I'm already used to this, since it happened before with Cross-Z Charge. But it seems like you've realized during that paragraph that Valen using yet another evil invention for good is pretty much the most Kamen Rider thing possible for his development. I'm just glad to see the Vrastrum Gear getting more Gochizous.
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
In this episode, Suga meets his demise, although his body remains intact. Nyelv mourns his death and seeks to continue his research.
Looks like Nyelve and Suga might've been more than just clandestine business partners. Suga wanted to create a "savior" strong enough to destroy Granutes, which Nyelve is apparently supportive of and willing to continue. I think this adds further plausibility to my speculation that Nyelve will become the final villain who will betray Stomach for a currently unknown goal.
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
Rakia confronts Suga, facing a Bitter Gavv in the process. Suga's research facilities include a tank designed for conceiving life forms, which, if broken, releases liquid, like on Steve's Tekken 5 ending.
While Bitter Gavv begging Vram to stop is like Dr. Abel in Julia's T4 ending.
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Originally Posted by
Matrixbeast
Also, since it seems Hanto is back to relying on Shouma for Gochizos, he'd better hope the Frappe Gochizo is indefinite, otherwise they'll have a big problem. Chocolate frappes get expensive
The Frappeis twins are sapient, so I presume they're immortal like Caking. It would be controversial if they weren't.
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Originally Posted by
Matrixbeast
Also, do we ever know where Hanto's father went? Maybe it was Suga all along? lol
We know that Hanto referred to Shioya as "like a foster father" and that he had moved in with his grandmother after Sae's death, so it sounds like his father died a very long time ago. Either that, or Suga.
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Annuga
Could it not represent Hanto's recent change in perspectives on Granutes, having a Granute made system rather than one by a human, especially seeing as this one was made by Dente, the guy who'll probably walk the isle for Shoma when the choco gummy wedding happens? It could also be a rejection of Suga, no longer using the Valen Buster as a transformation tool like it's intended, similar to how 54 years ago, Takeshi Hongo's cyborg convertion did not get used the way Shocker intended.
Considering how Hanto already accepted a Granute organ inside his body, him using a Granute-made device doesn't seem like a big deal by comparison. I think we'll still see Valen use Chocodon to henshin sometimes, as it's his base form after all. The Frappeis twins are detachable with the top half being compatible with the Red Gavv, so there might even be a tactical reason to do this. Anyway, will Shouma ask Sachika to be best girl at the ChocoGummy wedding?
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Annuga
Wait fuck typing that made me realize the link between Ichigo and Valen, both got operated on by mad scientists to become something more than human, only difference is instead of a remorseful scientist freeing Hongo, a remorseful scientist just gave Hanto a way to rebel with his newfound power. Huh.
I think Hanto has more in common with Shirou, due to them both losing family and starting with the motivation of revenge, before deciding to fight for justice after their debut.
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