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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 38- "The Other Side Of Hatred!" Discussion
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Because to be honest, the only reason Jiip has any real issue with Shoma at all is because of the position his older siblings put him and Shita in and the pressure they felt from Lango. They literally have every reason to be close due to their mutual trauma yet Jiip can't let go of his hate.
Jeebh had already antagonized Shoma since he was a child, and the reason Lango put pressure on him and Shita was that Jeebh and Shita had focused on sadistically toying with Shoma early on, rather than completing the missions properly. Pitiful elements aside, the twins are no different from the three older siblings; no reason why they shouldn't be someone who also mass kidnapped and murdered humans for spices as well like those three, and being racist to humans (which is why they antagonized Shoma, just like the three older siblings), which would mean Shoma's enemy.
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Looks like I was right about Hanto walking the path of Takeru, emphatically not forgiving Kenji while still acknowledging that he deserves to live for Hiroto's sake. It was Hanto's right to decide Kenji's fate and he could've just killed him fair enough, so I'm proud of him for showing mercy and seeing something bigger than his revenge.
For referring to Takeru, does that also mean being less forgiving compared to, for example, other main Riders like Touma? Who doesn't seem to hold any ill feelings towards Isaac (a pure evil), to give him a chance to join them again after his final defeat. Otherwise, so pay evil unto evil would be something right to do here, about Hanto's right to decide Kenji's fate? It'd be different for villains who wronged others (like Shinji against Asakura) and villains who personally wronged someone?
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No, Sae's murderer is still Lango.
This'd be rather kinda like saying that in Tekken, Jin didn't murder Miguel's sister, it was a Zaibatsu member that bombed the church. Otherwise, though not all cases (like Kenji here) people like to think that if a villain didn't kill anyone, then they did nothing wrong, continuing how they think if one did irreversible damage (like killing), then they're irredeemable, while downplaying the crimes which damage can be undone. This episode also points out, via Hanto, that innocent people had died because of Kenji.
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So I think Shouma no longer sees him as a credible threat to bother giving chase.
Even if he's not a credible threat to Shoma, he's still a credible threat to the normal humans, which he has been attacking before to spite Shoma. Should chase him down not to defend himself, but to defend humans.
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