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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 41- "Glasses Creeping Closer!" Discussion
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06-28-2025, 09:31 PM
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Zolda
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Aaaaannnnnddddd, my hypothesis in my 1st post in episode 39 thread
here
about the owner guy of the same candy/snack shop shown in episodes 30, 31, 34, 37, 39, & 40 being an immediate family member of Michiru (Shouma's mom) is proven to be correct in the scene @ 09:39. His name is Masaru Inoue (井上 優), and he's Michiru's older brother, so yeah, he's Shouma's maternal uncle, just like I hypothesized. In the scene @ 11:36, he shows Hanto the photo of a young Michiru, who he says went missing when she went to college. He says that she was a member of the college's snack club.
Also, in the scene @ 17:24, my hypothesis a long long
looooong
time ago in my posts in episode 22 thread
here
and in episode 23 thread
here
where I hypothesized that the cells from Kenzou's dead body would be claimed by Nyelv to be repurposed/recombined with other experimental cells in an experiment to create an unknown product is finally proven to be quite correct. He's basically just Nyelv's mindless zombie puppet now. His body is repurposed/recombined with an unknown Granute's dead body (very likely Bocca's political rival) by Nyelv. The dead Granute is said by Bocca to having had possessed a very very
very
plot-convenient ability to hypnotize/control people, so Bocca orders Nyelv in the scene @ 07:41 to combine it with a human's body to control humans in order to transform the entire human world into a planet-scale Hito Press farm like he envisioned earlier in the scene @ 00:30.
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Elaborated, edited post:
Lage 9 says in the opening monologue that the one who killed Komel was Glotta after all. Well, Lage 9, if in episode 19 @ 17:13 you already saw that Komel's wound was a huge, gaping open wound inflicted by a large blade, then you should've already been able to arrive at that conclusion since much much
much
earlier, since you already saw as early as episode 20 @ 14:23 that Glotta wielded a giant scythe. Heck, you even fought her in the same episode @ 20:06, so you should've known what the blade of her scythe was capable of and drawn the correct conclusion. I excitedly thought that Lage 9 was the Donnie Brasco of this story, and was disappointed and proven completely wrong when it was revealed that he was just an ordinary civilian Granute who had a very very
very
plot-convenient hApPiNeSs neurotoxin power. I was even more disappointed when it was revealed in episode 39 that indeed it was just Glotta who killed Komel. What a convenient, yet dumb plot line. *facepalm
"gLoTtA wAs tHe oNe wHo kIlLeD kOmEl aFtEr aLl!"
= "Water is wet!"
= "The sun rises in the east and sets in the west!"
= "The moon comes out at night!"
= "Dogs bark and cats meow!"
= "Zolda sucks at playing guitar!"
= "KR Gavv's story is atrocious!" Haha.
Gavv 19 @ 17:22
Gavv 20 @ 14:39
Gavv 20 @ 20:10
In the scene @ 00:30, Liselle laments Glotta's death after she hears from Nyelv that Glotta was defeated by Shouma/KR Gavv and Lage 9/KR Vram at the end of episode 40 last week. She says she wanted to get close to Glotta. I think she's just mocking Glotta, since no way this spoiled rich brat actually wants to make friends with other people, haha.
Bocca enters the scene and declares his grand plan to turn the entire human world into his personal, planet-scale Hito Press farm that he can he can do anything to at his whim. He thinks that making every single humans happy and sneakily kidnapping them is just too much of an inconvenience, so he decides to go public with his grand plan, haha.
I mentioned in my post in episode 40 thread
here
that the Dente-made neutralizer/antidote for Stomach's gaseous/liquid copy of Lage 9's awfully plot-convenient hApPiNeSs neurotoxin would be used in future episodes as
the
ultimate tool to foil Bocca/Liselle's plan to Hito Press huge number of humans at once, and this scene could imply that that plan is using Stomach's gaseous/liquid copy of Lage 9's awfully plot-convenient hApPiNeSs neurotoxin as fertilizer inside the planet-scale Hito Press farm that is the human world. He then shows Nyelv a dead body of a Granute. Whose body is that, and what will it be used for?
In the scene @ 01:53, Shouma visits the same Hidamari candy/snack shop shown in episodes 30, 31, 34, 37, 39, & 40 to buy several snacks to refill his depleted Gochipod RG. The owner guy thinks Shouma's habit of eating a lot of snack is a bit worrying, though Shouma reassures him that he also eats full meals, which then reminds the owner guy that when his younger sister was a kid, she was often scolded for eating a lot of snacks. One more clue until the reveal of the owner guy as an immediate family member of Michiru (Shouma's mom), haha.
In the scene @ 02:24, when Shouma is walking home, he sees 2 people doing bizarre repeated motions, while the mysterious man in black robe shown in the preview section of episode 40 last week is ominously seeing them from afar. What's happening here?
In the scene @ 04:31, Sachika tells Shouma that she also saw several people doing similarly bizarre repeated motions. She thought that those people were having fun, for example the elderly lady who repeatedly stroked a postbox in the hope of winning a prize.
In the scene @ 05:10, Hanto visits the apartment of a man with an Inoue (井上) surname. He doesn't seem to be at home, so a neighbor of his tells Hanto that he's usually at his shop during the day. This Inoue guy must be the owner guy of the Hidamari candy/snack shop that Shouma visited earlier @ 01:53.
In the scene @ 05:34, Lage 9 is collecting some tasty rocks near a river. He feels that Stomach's part-timers' activities have decreased, which he thinks is due to Lango Mango's and Glotta's defeat. He then encounters a human elderly man who is trying to eat rocks, instead of fishing like he's shown to be doing. As usual in this atrocious story, in a very very
very
convenient coincidence, Shouma arrives at that location at the right moment to notice that the same mysterious man in black robe is also ominously seeing the scene from afar. Lage 9, Shouma, and Sachika are taking the elderly man to a hospital and conclude that there must be something going on. Kotaro Minami: "Could this be Gorgom's plot?" Shouma: "Could this be Stomach's plot?" Haha.
In the scene @ 07:10, the mysterious man in black robe uses his Bake Magnum to shoot at a random guy who is receiving a can of coffee from a vending machine. He orders the random guy to repeatedly press the button on the vending machine. Nyelv then enters the scene and says that simple commands are almost guaranteed to work and is seemingly satisfied for his first experiment. In an elaborated flashback scene of the earlier scene @ 00:30, Bocca said that the dead body of a certain Granute that he showed to Nyelv had a special ability that he had thought would've been useful to him in the future, so he had decided to keep the dead body. He tells Nyelv that the Granute's special ability had been something akin to hypnosis. He said that the Granute was able to control the action of other Granutes, so he was planning to use the Granute's hypnosis ability on humans since it would make collecting Hito Presses much easier. Based on Nyelv's bizarre post-mortem monologue (which is an obvious infodump, haha
) @ 08:43, the dead Granute was Bocca's strongest political rival from the opposition party. He laments the poor Granute's unfortunate demise, while joking that it's not his place to say that while looking at the mysterious man in black robe. Perhaps the mysterious man in black robe was Nyelv's analogue to the poor Granute whose body is used as a test subject long after he was assassinated by Bocca.
In the scene @ 09:04, Hanto visits the location of the shop where the Inoue guy earlier @ 05:10 is supposed to work at, and yes, it's the same Hidamari candy/snack shop that Shouma visited earlier @ 01:53. The owner guy recognizes Hanto as Shouma's friend that he encountered in a very very
very
convenient coincidence in episode 39 @ 11:18.
Aaaaannnnnddddd, my hypothesis in my 1st post in episode 39 thread
here
about the owner guy of the same Hidamari candy/snack shop shown in episodes 30, 31, 34, 37, 39, & 40 being an immediate family member of Michiru (Shouma's mom) is proven to be correct in the scene @ 09:39 when Hanto asks the owner guy if his name is Masaru Inoue (井上 優) and the owner guy confirms it. Hanto asks Masaru if there was any of his family members who went missing about 20 years ago. Masaru answers that his younger sister was missing, and her name was Michiru Inoue. He's Michiru's older brother, so yeah, he's Shouma's maternal uncle, exactly like I hypothesized. I elaborated and asked in my posts in episode 33 thread
here
and episode 40 thread
here
why the heck Shouma hasn't tried to make Hanto's job 10000000000000000000% easier by showing him the the family tree of his mom that might include the names of her siblings, parents, grandparents, uncles, cousins, etc, at least her immediate family's. Now
the
answer is as clear as day:
Plot convenience
, as always in this atrocious story. If Shouma had told Hanto about Masaru's existence, then Hanto would've been 10000000000000000000% more likely to find him much much
much
earlier, so Masaru's apparent, yet mysterious connection to Shouma during all his appearances in episodes 30, 31, 34, 37, 39, & 40 would've been totally for naught. It would've ruined the carefully planned uber-convoluted plots, and the story would've gone haywire. Once again, this scene demonstrates that this atrocious story is a gigantic house of cards that would pathetically crumble when exposed to even the tiniest dose of common sense. TLDR: Plot convenience, as always in this atrocious story. My Lord, how pathetically, laughably, indefensibly lazy, cheap, sloppy, heavy-handed, and atrocious KR Gavv's story is. Thanks for the impressively atrocious story, Gavv's producers and writers! *facepalm
I've got nothing more to say about the sheer stupidity of the Shouma-hiding-Masaru's-existence-from-Hanto-in-order-to-drag-10-episodes-longer subplot, so let me repost my point about it in my post last week in episode 40 thread
here
:
"Oh, and Shouma the stupidest protagonist asked Hanto in episode 29 @ 03:44 to find the remaining family members of his mom, so why the heck hasn't he tried to make Hanto's job easier by showing him the the family tree of his mom?
The family tree might include the names of her siblings, parents, grandparents, uncles, cousins, etc, so it would greatly help Hanto and make his job 10000000000000000000% easier. Of course, Shouma the stupidest protagonist, your mom told you multiple times about her family tree, at least her immediate family's, right? Right?
Right
? Heck, like I elaborated in my post in episode 33 thread
here
, if Shouma the stupidest protagonist truly wanted to find the remaining family members of his mom, then he should've told Hanto all the crucial details about his mom, be it legal name (including the kanji spelling of it, if any, not just kanji + hiragana), date of birth, last known address, last known profession, marital status, last known family members (parents, next of kin, etc.), and so on. Of course, Shouma the stupidest protagonist, your mom told you multiple times about those details, right? Right?
Right
? Hanto could've then only needed to visit the local police precinct to confirm the accuracy of those data about a missing woman named Michiru Inoue. The police have a database of solved and unsolved cases of missing people, and a simple Ctrl + F would've already shown the various details about a victim named Michiru Inoue who went missing in early 2000's. I bet all my net worth that there would've not been many woman from Tokyo specifically named Michiru Inoue about the age of 20-30 (at that time) who went missing in the early 2000's. The fact that Shouma the stupidest protagonist only gave the name 井上みちる/Inoue Michiru to Hanto in episode 29 @ 03:44 is the definite proof that Shouma the stupidest protagonist either:
- Has
zero
intention of making Hanto's job easier (read: a plot convenience to make the convoluted story even more convoluted and unnecessary longer than needed),
- And or is just stupid beyond belief that he deserves the name Shouma the stupidest protagonist.
The whole problem (and the plot!) would've been solved by a simple Ctrl + F in the police database to confirm the various details of a Michiru Inoue. Gosh, this story is just soooooooooooooooooooooo unnecessary convoluted to the point it completely disregards many obvious, simple, easy, perfectly executable solutions. Soooooooooooooooooooooo stupid! *facepalm"
In the scene @ 10:36, Sachika points out that there have been talks in social media about a suspicious man dressed in black near the scenes of people doing bizarre repeated motions, who people think could be a Granute. Shouma recalls seeing the mysterious man in black robe during a very very
very
convenient coincidence earlier @ 05:34 and concludes that the man must be involved. Soooooooooo convenient!
In the scene @ 11:36, Masaru shows Hanto the photo of a young Michiru, who he says went missing when she went to college. He says that she was a member of the college's snack club. He says that he and both their parents believed that she was still alive somewhere and would've returned home, though that day would've never come, and both their parents died in grief. Masaru tells Hanto @ 13:39 that he has never told Shouma (and all other customers of his candy/snack shop) about Michiru's disappearance, but what the heck's the point of him
not
telling people about it?
Masaru himself has implied during this whole scene with Hanto that he has been desperate for any clues regarding Michiru's whereabouts, so why the heck has he never told all the customers of his candy/snack shop about Michiru's disappearance?
Telling more people about Michiru's disappearance would definitely open more possibilities for new clues, so why the heck has he never done that?
He's desperate for clues regarding Michiru's whereabouts, yet he doesn't want to tell his customers about her disappearance?
Whaaattt???
Make this makes sense, please! His intention and his action are completely the opposite of each other. His decision makes no sense whatsoever! My Lord in heaven, as usual, the writers of this atrocious story didn't give a flying frak about logic, rationality, and common sense. Just when a somewhat decent character appears, the writers couldn't help but making him do utterly stoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopid things merely to make the uber-convoluted plot even more convoluted. What's equally stupid as Masaru's decision is Hanto's decision
also
not to tell Shouma about the familial connection between him and Masaru/the owner guy of Hidamari candy/snack shop. I bet Hanto does this in order to coddle Shouma's fragile feelings as usual, and also to enable the writers to drag the-hidden-familial-connection-between-Shouma-and-Masaru subplot even longer. What a weak protagonist Shouma is. He's so emotionally weak and immature that other characters even feel the need to coddle him like a toddler. Pathetic.
In the scene @ 14:28, Jeebh is blaming himself for the disintegration within the Stomach family, likely because he decided to marry Liselle. He's unwilling to use Shita's Mimic Key because it would mean that the Henshin Belt Bitter Gavv/kuro Gabu would end up on Shita. This scene ends with Liselle encouraging (read: agitating) Jeebh by telling him to be strong, and Jeebh being Liselle's personal cuck boy, as usual, haha.
So yeah, just like I hypothesized in my post last week in episode 40 thread
here
, Jeebh is sidelined again in this episode.
Like I always said, it has been established in this story that a Mimic Key is basically just clothes, not a body, so why does Jeebh always bizarrely treats Shita's Mimic Key so personally?
Why the heck Jeebh keep doing this weird, nonsensical thing?
Like I elaborated in my post in episode 30 thread
here
, a Mimic Key is just a mask/clothes in the shape of a human, so, if Jeebh wants to enter nostalgia mode, then why doesn't he reminisce about Shita by looking at her photos or watching her videos that show her
real
,
actual
Granute form?
Why doesn't he reminisce about Shita by looking at the photo albums that show all her photos since birth?
That human face is not Shita's
real
,
actual
face that he had known since birth (since they were twins), so what kind of emotional connection does he have with that human face?
Heck, even when Shita was killed by Shouma/KR Gavv Caking form in episode 14 @ 19:30, she was not even using her Mimic Key! As shown in the screenshot below, she sacrificed herself and died right in front of him while showing her
real
,
actual
Granute face and form, so why the heck does he reminisce about her by using her Mimic Key and looking at her
human disguise
, which is basically just a mask/clothes?
Very very
very
bizarre and weird reasoning by Jeebh as usual. Or perhaps Jeebh has
actually
gone crazy?
Don't know! Thanks for the nonsensical, atrocious writing, Gavv's writers and producers! *facepalm
Gavv 14 @ 19:39
In the scene @ 17:09, Shouma, Lage 9, and Hanto manage to corner the mysterious man in black robe. Hanto removes the mysterious man's robe @ 17:24... Aaaaannnnnddddd, he's revealed to be Kenzou's mere reanimated dead body, which means that my hypothesis a long long
looooong
time ago in my posts in episode 22 thread
here
and in episode 23 thread
here
where I hypothesized that the cells from Kenzou's dead body would be claimed by Nyelv to be repurposed/recombined with other experimental cells in an experiment to create an unknown product is finally proven to be quite correct. He's basically just Nyelv's mindless zombie puppet now. His body is repurposed/recombined with the poor Granute's dead body by Nyelv. Like I elaborated earlier, the dead Granute is said by Bocca to having had possessed a very very
very
plot-convenient ability to hypnotize/control people, so Bocca orders Nyelv in the scene @ 07:41 to combine it with a human's body (Kenzou's) to control humans in order to transform the entire human world into a planet-scale Hito Press farm like he envisioned earlier in the scene @ 00:30. Gosh, this hypnotism/mind-control power is just sooooooooooooooooooooooo pathetically, awfully convenient for the plot! First the writers gave the awfully plot-convenient hApPiNeSs neurotoxin power to Lage 9 to advance his plot much faster, then they made Lango Mango copy it in episodes 35-36 and give it to Bocca, and now they gave Bocca yet another equally awful plot-convenience by giving him a Granute with hypnotism/mind-control power. Oh, and not to mention Kenzou's cloning ability that created the entirety of the Dark Shoumas' subplot. The sheer, brazen, shameless laziness of the writers of this atrocious story really really
really
knows no bounds, haha.
In the scene @ 18:43, Shouma angrily asks Nyelv what the heck he's scheming. Like I've elaborated since my post in episode 35 thread
here
, I see an 80-90% probability that the answer could be delivered by the RG's since they're the writers' favorite tools of information manipulation, haha.
Kenzoumbie (
) transforms into KR Bitter Gavv v4.0 using the same Breacookie RG like when he was KR Bake, and as expected, he manages to overpower pretty much the "Revenge Trio" Riders, haha.
And yeah, his hypnotism/mind-control power in this episode is just sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo awfully convenient for the subplot as it makes Hanto fight the other 2 "Revenge Trio" Riders.
Next week:
Hanto is having an angel-vs-demon inner conflict while being hypnotized/mind-controlled by Kenzoumbie, so it could be him who kill Kenzoumbie and send him to hell for good, haha.
Heck, he could be the one who kill Nyelv as well, since he was viewed as a mere disposable pawn to both Kenzou and Nyelv.
Lango Mango appears again after he briefly returned at the end of episode 40, albeit totally vanishes in episode 41. What kind of contribution would he give to the story? It seems like he's only watching things unfold from the sidelines. It seems like he's making his own calculation before taking back the Stomach corporation from Bocca.
The debut of Nyelv's full Granute form, which could also be the episode of his defeat and or death. It'd be hilarious if both Nyelv and Kenzoumbie are finally destroyed in this very same episode, haha.
Maaannn, he has been built up as the cold, calculating, cunning manipulator that could end up being the ultimate, final villain, and I really really
really
thought that he would've ended up creating his own ultimate Driver/transformation device to one-up Kenzou's Bake Magnum. Bandai usually loves a final villain that wears a Driver, at least a repainted Driver, right? Right?
Right
? But no, instead of making him reach the ultimate peak of a genius villain scientist, he's seemingly satisfied in being Bocca's lackey. He's seemingly satisfied in just being Bocca's elite mook. If this were true, then it'd be a very very
very
disappointing ending to his plot, just like Kenzou's, Lango Mango's, and Glotta's. Ironically, the only one of the Stomach villains with a somewhat satisfying ending/defeat/death was Shita.
Mmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyybbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeee...
Last edited by Zolda; 06-29-2025 at
03:23 AM
.. Reason: Added elaborated post.
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