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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 45- "I Won't Let Anyone Take Them Away Anymore!"
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07-26-2025, 09:43 PM
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Zolda
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Original, unedited post:
Nyelv is offering Shouma the position of the head of the Stomach family. My hypothesis in my post in episode 44 thread
here
was quite correct. Nyelv is seemingly trying to psychologically manipulate Shouma by drilling in his mind the worst-case scenario (Bocca's endgame about transforming the entire human world into a planet-scale Hito Press farm) that would definitely happen if Shouma is not taking an immediate action and accept his offer. He's claiming that he loves Stomach family and only wants to take the Stomach corporation back from Bocca/Liselle. He's trying to gain Shouma's trust by returning 2 big boxes of Hito Pressed humans, though I still see a high probability (>55% chance) that he's just using Shouma as a pawn to fight Bocca, and he'll still betray Shouma in the end. Of course, as shown in the preview section, Shouma/KR Gavv will still be overpowered by Bocca in episode 46, so the berserker form route is still open, not to mention that Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari is still absent in episode 45. Perhaps it's the summer film-exclusive Hexenheim form, or yet another new (kitbash) form? Don't know!
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Elaborated, edited post:
In the opening monologue @ 00:01, Shouma says that he decided not to tell Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari that he's Michiru's son because he didn't want Masaru to be sadder. What I hear is: "The writers didn't want me to tell Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari that I'm Michiru's son because they still needed to drag the-hidden-familial-connection-between-me-and-Mr. Hidamari subplot until episode 46 or 47, or even 48. They would've needed to delay the resolution of the-hidden-familial-connection-between-me-and-Mr. Hidamari subplot to coincide with another crucial plot point that would've ended with me ultimately deciding to live in the human world."
In the scene @ 00:23, Nyelv visits Shouma at Sachika's shop by following an RG that he encountered in a very very
very
convenient coincidence in episode 44 @ 20:22. He's offering Shouma the position of the head of the Stomach family. Nyelv's claiming that he loves Stomach family and only wants to take the Stomach corporation back from Bocca/Liselle. He says that he just wants the Stomach family to be at the top of the Granute society. He says that their father (Bouche) lacked ambition, and he was a bit worried about Lango Mango's ability, so he decided to test Shouma. My hypothesis in my post in episode 44 thread
here
was quite correct, since @ 06:39 he's also seemingly trying to psychologically manipulate Shouma by drilling in his mind the worst-case scenario (Bocca's endgame about transforming the entire human world into a planet-scale Hito Press farm) that would definitely happen if Shouma is not taking an immediate action and accept his offer. He says to Shouma that if Shouma manages to defeat Bocca, then Shouma would become the president and would be able to stop Bocca's endgame about invading the human world. To sweeten the deal, he even tells Shouma that he's planning to seal the so-called Door Room to stop the interworld travel between the Granute world and the human world, effectively stopping Stomach corporation's entire Dark Snacks operations once and for all. To convince Shouma that he's serious about his offer, he even willingly accepts Shouma's request to return all the Hito Pressed humans at Stomach corporation. Just when he finishes talking to Shouma, one of Lango Mango's agents is shown spying on their deal. Why is one of Lango Mango's agents only able to successfully spy on Shouma
now
?
Why do they almost always fail during crucial moments in previous episodes?
The answer is clear:
Plot convenience
, as always in this atrocious story. It happens simply because the writers needed Lango Mango to make a crucial move in the next 2 or 3 episodes that advances the plot, so, because they needed to drag the plot in previous episodes, they needed to make Lango Mango and his agents to perform as stupid and incompetent as possible. Cringe! *facepalm
In the scene @ 05:36, Shouma suspects that Nyelv was the one who let him escape to the human world at the beginning of episode 1, and Nyelv confirms it. It's revealed in a flashback scene that right after Michiru (Shouma's mom) was killed by Glotta by breaking her Hito Press, Shouma was confined in his/his mom's room, so his escape from Stomach's factory (during the very first 1 minute of episode 1, for example @ 00.10) didn't happen right after he was immediately subdued by 2 of Lango Mango's agents (episode 4 @ 16:14). The timeline is as follows:
- Shouma and his mom were captured by 2 of Lango Mango's agents (episode 4 @ 14:27-15:31).
Gavv 04 @ 14:27-15:31
- Shouma's mom was successfully Hito Pressed by an unknown/unseen Granute (probably one of the factory workers, not one of the Stomach siblings), while Shouma was failed to be Hito Pressed by a 2nd unknown/unseen Granute (probably another factory worker) due to his body possessing Granute DNA (episode 4 @ 15:31-16:14).
Gavv 04 @ 15:31-16:14
- Shouma was then immediately subdued by 2 of Lango Mango's agents while seeing his mom's Hito Press broken by Glotta, effectively killing her (episode 4 @ 16:14-16:52).
Gavv 04 @ 16:14-16:52
- Shouma was still subdued by 2 of Lango Mango's agents and then taken away from the factory (episode 4 @ 16:52-16:58).
Gavv 04 @ 16:52-16:58
- Shouma was then restrained to a chair with a chain and confined in his/his mom's room (episode 45 @ 05:48-05:55).
Gavv 45 @ 05:48-05:55
- Someone (very likely one of Nyelv's agents) opened the door of Shouma/his mom's room to allow him to escape (episode 45 @ 05:55-06:22).
Gavv 45 @ 05:55-06:22
- Shouma was finally able to escape Stomach's factory into the human world by accessing the so-called Door Room (episode 1 @ 00:00-00:52).
Gavv 01 @ 00:00-00:52
Buuuuuuuuuutttttttttt, despite this attempt at closing the severe, plot-breaking logical anomaly (that I elaborated in my 3rd post in episode 42 thread
here
), there are still several unanswered logical anomalies, such as:
- The ones who pursued Shouma when he escaped Stomach's factory into the human world by accessing the so-called Door Room in episode 1 @ 00:00-00:52 were Lango Mango's agents, who are known to be much stronger and faster than normal/low class Granutes. Soooooooooo, how the heck was Shouma, a mere human-Granute hybrid whose untransformed-self is a pathetic weakling loser, able to outrun and outmaneuver 2(!) of Lango Mango's agents which allowed him to escape from Stomach's factory at the very beginning of episode 1?
How the heck could they utterly fail to capture Shouma when he was allowed to escape from the Stomach mansion/factory by one of Nyelv's agents, but were able to easily capture him several moments earlier (episode 4 @ 16:14-16:58)?
Lango Mango and his agents didn't know about Nyelv's plan, so it should've been impossible for them to let Shouma escape from Stomach's factory.
Gavv 01 @ 00:05
Gavv 01 @ 00:10
Gavv 01 @ 00:46
Gavv 01 @ 00:48
- I've just realized that there's another logical anomaly regarding the so-called Door Room. Nyelv said during his very strange, very obvious infodump monologue in episode 44 @ 15:15 that it's still unclear who made and how the so-called Door Room works. So, if Stomach corporation still doesn't even know how the so-called Door Room works, then how the heck have they been able to control it with their family crest/company logo and freely open the interworld portal?
If they still don't even know how it works, then how the heck have they been able to use it to connect the Stomach mansion with various strategic locations in the human world such as Kenzou's crummy office/lab, various Hito Press collection centers, and Liselle/Jeebh's new villa?
If they still don't know how it works, then how the heck could they authorize new users such as Bocca and Liselle?
If they still don't even know what it is and how it works, then how the heck have they been able to
control
it?
Gavv 44 @ 15:15
- Since Nyelv confirms Shouma's suspicion @ 05:36 that he was the one who let him escape to the human world at the beginning of episode 1, does this imply that he was
also
the one who allowed Komel to return to the Granute world and arrive at Lage 9's house in episode 19 @ 17:13 like I elaborated in my post in episode 25 thread
here
?
If so, then why the heck didn't Glotta ever become suspicious of him (or Lango Mango) for allowing Komel to escape from the human world into the Granute world?
Or perhaps she was made by the writers to be just apathetic of everything that happened around her?
- Does it mean that he was
also
the Stomach's insider who tipped Lage 9 about the connection between the name Dark Snacks with Stomach corporation, like I've been asking since my 2nd post in episode 19 thread
here
?
That could likely be the case, since it's the easiest route.
In the scene @ 03:17, Sachika the heroine-with-virtually-no-backstory-except-2-mundane-facts-that-she-has-a-filthy-rich-grandma-and-that-she-lives-in-the-same-apartment-complex-as-Ritsu who has just finished a job encounters Hanto in a very very
very
convenient coincidence, as usual in this atrocious story. They then visit Lage 9 who is at Kenzou's crummy office/lab testing Dente-made neutralizer/antidote for Stomach's gaseous/liquid copy of his awfully plot-convenient hApPiNeSs neurotoxin. Although Sachika says that she's not surprised to see Lage 9 as a Granute without wearing his human disguise at all, she has long suspected that Lage 9 had been Hito Pressing humans too. So naturally, Lage 9 is feeling guilty and apologizes to Sachika, even though it's clear that he did what he did as a ploy to gain Stomach's trust. Sachika is
also
blaming herself for being shallow and for wishing happiness on Lage 9 some time ago.
In the scene @ 12:55, Shouma is sitting at a public space and wishing that he can stay in the human world. Exactly 1 minute later, as usual in this atrocious story, in a very very
very
convenient coincidence, he encounters Liselle who is visiting the crab Granute, a Stomach part-timer who poses as a fortune teller. Shouma calls Lage 9 and both fight the crab Granute. For the very first time in a very very
very
long time I can't even remember, this series shows a fight scene at an open, public place that features many civilians. Perhaps the producers of this series read several of my weekly posts about how visually sterile, hollow, and empty the fight scenes in this series have been due to the almost total lack of civilians, haha.
See? That's how you do a natural-looking scene! Anyway, Liselle decides to play along by casually destroying several buildings and injure several civilians. The best part of this scene is KR Gavv Caking form, as usual, so perhaps the producers of this series
did
read my weekly posts? Haha.
In the scene @ 19:25, Shouma and the others are having a feast. Sachika says that she wants to help Lage 9 since he has regretted his crimes as a Stomach part-timer and wants to start over, and as usual, she ends her speech with the words hApPy or hApPiNeSs. I think this story needs to stop spouting the words hApPy or hApPiNeSs way too much, since the KR series that did it tend to be either very very
very
bad (KR Revice) or atrocious (KR (God forbid) Geats, and now also including KR (God forbid) Gavv). Heck, even KR Fourze, a series whose main and weekly guest characters are 90-95% high schoolers almost never spouted such trite words as hApPy or hApPiNeSs. Even Gentaro Kisaragi, an ultra-high-energy, free-spirited, regent-haired high schooler wasn't naively idealistic like Sachika and the other protagonists from KR (God forbid) Gavv are. Like my wisecracker grandpa once remarked: "Happiness is like a cat. If you chase it, it's getting further away from you. The most unhappy people are those who often talk about and chase happiness."
In the scene @ 21:12, Shouma receives the initial sign of Nyelv's commitment. Nyelv's trying to gain Shouma's trust by keeping his promise and returning 2 big boxes of Hito Pressed humans, though I still see a high probability (>55% chance) that he's just using Shouma as a pawn to fight Bocca, and he'll still betray Shouma in the end. Of course, as shown in the preview section, Shouma/KR Gavv will still be overpowered by Bocca in episode 46, so the berserker form route is still open, not to mention that Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari is still absent in episode 45. Perhaps it's the summer film-exclusive Hexenheim form, or yet another new (kitbash) form?
Don't know! So, by @ 21:36, the deal between Nyelv and Shouma is done, and since Nyelv has kept his end of the bargain, Shouma decides to return to the Granute world with him. And as they departs, Lango Mango is looking at them from afar @ 22:42, likely waiting to see Nyelv's scheme to unfold, and very likely also waiting for the perfect time to strike Nyelv and or Bocca.
Oh, and Jeebh is totally absent again in this episode, as I've already expected, haha.
He's overstayed his welcome for way way
waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy
too long. Like I said in my post in episode 44 thread
here
last week:
"If my 50-episode story has only 6 remaining episodes yet 5 major villains are
still
alive/undefeated, then it means I've royally screwed up, haha.
"
Next week:
Shouma is wearing Nyelv's attire as Bocca's right-hand man, quite literally. Doesn't Bocca even notice that he's a completely different guy?
I've always asked: why the heck has Nyelv been wearing his human disguise in the Granute world almost the entire time?
Why the heck hasn't he just shown his true Granute form in the Granute world?
The answer is likely:
Plot convenience
, as always in this atrocious story. Shouma, being a human-Granute hybrid, doesn't have a Granute form, so he needs to cosplay as Nyelv (by copying Nyelv's whole human attire) in order to try to fool Bocca and then strikes him once he lets his guard down. If this is indeed Nyelv's plan to take down Bocca, then I was 1000000000000000% totally wrong about him, because it means that Nyelv is as shallow and stupid as Lango Mango is.
Lango Mango says in the preview section @ 22:55 that he wants to see what Nyelv can do, so yeah, it seems like he's still in the wait-and-see mode.
Shouma/KR Gavv is trying to attack Bocca as KR Gavv Gochipod form, and like I said above, even in his final form, he's still severely overpowered by Bocca, so the berserker form route is still open, or at least a final episode-exclusive extra final form similar to KR Zero-One Realizing Hopper, KR Almighty Saber, and KR Gotchard Ultima Steamhopper form.
Sachika the heroine-with-virtually-no-backstory-except-2-mundane-facts-that-she-has-a-filthy-rich-grandma-and-that-she-lives-in-the-same-apartment-complex-as-Ritsu is giving a speech and scolding Shouma in the preview section @ 23:01 for not trying to share his burden with the other protagonists. Her speech could likely motivate him to return to the human world and ultimately tell Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari that he's Michiru's son which would finally resolve the-hidden-familial-connection-between-Shouma-and-Masaru subplot. The hApPiNeSs that would very likely result from Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari accepting Shouma for who he really is could be the catalyst that would grant Shouma/KR Gavv the final episode-exclusive extra final form that I mentioned above.
Mmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyybbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeee...
Last edited by Zolda; 07-27-2025 at
08:24 AM
.. Reason: Added elaborated post; added paragraph 3 and 4.
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