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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 46- "Shoma's Determination!" Discussion
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08-03-2025, 02:18 AM
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Zolda
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In the scene @ 00:19, when Nyelv is asked by Shouma to return all of Stomach corporation's part-timers in the human world to the Granute world and seal the so-called Door Room, he tells Shouma that he's planning to do it little by little to avoid causing suspicion to Bocca and his regime. He's then asked by Shouma whether he's already prepared his plan to defeat Bocca. Does his plan involve making Shouma cosplay as Nyelv (by copying Nyelv's whole human attire) in order to try to fool Bocca and then strikes him once his guard is down like I hypothesized in my 1st post in episode 45 thread
here
? Let's see how the story unfolds.
In the scene @ 02:33, Kenzoumbie/KR Bitter Gavv v4.0's Bake Magnum that was supposed to be pathetically destroyed by Lage 9/KR Vram in episode 42 @ 19:44 actually still exists, very likely as another copy made by Nyelv. Nyelv tells Shouma that Kenzoumbie/KR Bitter Gavv v4.0's Bake Magnum is
also
able to manipulate/mind-control Granutes, albeit having unstable performance and effectiveness, which he claims he has improved. He says that his improvement to Kenzoumbie/KR Bitter Gavv v4.0's Bake Magnum to manipulate/mind-control Granutes only lasts about 3 minutes tops. Shouma concludes that they'll use it on Bocca to temporarily immobilize him and then allow Shouma in his KR Gavv Gochipod form Over/Master modes to kill Bocca, something to which Nyelv has assumed would work since that was how Shouma/KR Gavv defeated Lango Mango in episode 36. And while Shouma/KR Gavv is getting rid of Bocca, Nyelv himself would deal with Liselle and Jeebh. Sooooooooooooooo, this could be
the
reason why Lango Mango has never shown to anyone that he's still alive since official return to the story in episode 42, except to Sachika who doesn't know who he is anyway. The flow of (dumb) logic is likely this:
- Lango Mango is shown to be still alive at the end of episode 40 arrives and came out of nowhere to comfort Glotta during her dying moment, and officially returns to the story in episode 42.
- No one knows that Lango Mango is still alive, except Sachika who saw him in episode 42 @ 10:16 and wondered where she had seen him before, referring to the scene in episode 11 @ 13:54 when she saw Lango Mango (and felt his creepy aura) at a public pedestrian walkway, so she still doesn't know him anyway. Although, she could likely tell Shouma and the others at the very last minute that she had seen him in episode 42 @ 10:16, but it would be already too late.
- Since Nyelv has erroneously assumed that Lango Mango is still alive and has devised his plan to overthrow Bocca based on that erroneous assumption, then there's a 95-99% probability that it'd miserably fail.
- Like I've said in the 1st paragraph above, Shouma would then cosplay as Nyelv to fool Bocca and execute Nyelv's plan by shooting him with the Nyelv-improved Kenzoumbie/KR Bitter Gavv v4.0's Bake Magnum.
- Like shown in the preview section of episode 45 last week, Shouma/KR Gavv, even in his Gochipod form Over/Master modes will still be overpowered by Bocca in episode 46.
- It means Nyelv's scheme to overthrow Bocca is doomed from the very beginning.
So yeah, like I've previously said, Bocca's endgame is pretty much manipulating the entire Granute society, starting with the aristocrats/wealthy. I'd like to repost my point about it in the 3rd paragraph of my post in episode 43 thread
here
:
"I think perhaps Bocca's endgame (about transforming the entire human world into a planet-scale Hito Press farm) is part of his ultimate political scheme of manipulating virtually all of Granute's population by using Dark Snacks. Buuuuuttttt, at the beginning of episode 41, it was shown that he already had the dead body of his assassinated political rival whom he said to possess hypnosis power. If Nyelv was able to combine the poor Granute politician's body with Kenzou's body, then he should've been able to combine it with
another Granute
's body, and then used it to hypnotize the entire Granute population. Which means: Bocca already had all the ingredients to create his ultimate tool of mass hypnosis that he'd ultimately use as his political weapon, without even involving Stomach corporation (except Nyelv) Dark Snacks, kidnapping humans, and all that crap. Bocca's convoluted endgame (about transforming the entire human world into a planet-scale Hito Press farm) is just the same exact plan with 10 extra steps, which of course,
will
end in Bocca's (and Liselle's) death, haha.
What he should do is:
- Keep the dead body of his assassinated political rival who he said to possess hypnosis power.
- Combine it with
another Granute
's body.
- Use it to manipulate the entire Granute population.
- Win the election and be the dictator president for the next 100 years.
Instead, what he's
actually
been doing is:
- Keep the dead body of his assassinated political rival who he said to possess hypnosis power.
- Combine it with a human's body.
- Use it to manipulate the entire human population.
- Use the entire human population as ingredients of Dark Snacks.
- Feed the Dark Snacks to the entire Granute population and manipulate them.
- Win the election and be the dictator president for the next 100 years.
- Of course, his convoluted plan
will
be screwed up at the last minutes by the protagonists, and it
will
end in Bocca's (and Liselle's) death.
Instead of winning the election by using a simple, straightforward plan, he's decided to use an uber-convoluted plan that
will
result in his own death. If this is what'll actually happen in the story, then I can only say:
What a dumb politician Bocca is!
"
In the scene @ 03:24, Sachika is showing Hanto and Lage 9 Shouma's thank-you-and-goodbye note. Lage 9 correctly suspects that Shouma is returning to the Granute world by himself. He is then planning to search everywhere in Tokyo, even randomly, for the doors that may lead to the so-called Door Room, which then Hanto and Sachika join in. This is soooooooooooooo weird. The so-called Door Room can only be found and accessed by the members of the Stomach family (including Shouma) and their agents. Lage 9, Hanto, and Sachika are not members of the Stomach family, so how the heck on God's green Earth that they're going to even find the doors that lead to the so-called Door Room?
They won't even find any door in Tokyo that actually lead to the so-called Door Room in the first, because in order to find them, they need to be checked/sensed (by probing) and then authorized by a member of the Stomach family (including Shouma) and or their agents. Even if they stand in front of a door that actually lead to the so-called Door Room, they won't even know that since it can only be sensed by a member of the Stomach family (including Shouma) and or their agents. This means: As usual in this atrocious story, they would very very
very
likely find it in a very very
very
convenient coincidence. This is what happens when my story and its internal logic is super-duper-hyper-mega-ultra convoluted. In the end, the laws of logic, rationality, and common sense
will
prevail and force me to use a gazillion of very very
very
convenient coincidences and or stupid/irrational/nonsensical decisions by the characters to connect the plot points, which means that my story is super-duper-hyper-mega-ultra convoluted, messy, and heavy-handed. Gosh, the writers of this pathetically, laughably, embarrassingly, indefensibly lazy, sloppy, heavy-handed, and atrocious story reaaaaalllllyyyyy
loved
shooting themselves in the foot.
In the scene @ 04:32, Shouma can't believe that he returns to the very same room inside Bouche's mansion where he and his mom were house arrested for about the first 20-25 miserable, dumb years of his life. The green screen/image compositing looks off and weird there, haha.
He's reminded of the scene where they were talking about returning to the human world and being hApPy there. There that cringe-inducing word again: hApPy/hApPiNeSs. hApPy/hApPiNeSs is just sooooooooo cringey because they're
not
happiness. hApPy/hApPiNeSs is just the shallowest of the shallowest of the shallowest ways to attain happiness, and it's very very
very
evident from the sheer, gigantic, colossal shallowness and stupidity of this atrocious story.
In the scene @ 06:07, in a very strange, very obvious infodump monologue, Nyelv says that although he does intend to return the Hito Pressed humans to the human world, he still has some stocks of Dark Snacks that were manufactured before his deal with Shouma in episode 45 last week. he's planning to use those Dark Snacks to manipulate the Granute society into electing Shouma as the president. A flashback scene plays where his kid-self was talking to Zomb. He was talked down by Zomb by being called weak like his mom (Bouche's wife, who probably died of sickness a long time ago and is totally irrelevant to the story). He was also called useless by Zomb and told to follow the examples of Lango Mango and Glotta. This flashback scene shows that he's long resented Zomb and has since determined to use the Dark Snacks to put the Stomach family at the top of the Granute society's pecking order. He's then visited by Liselle and Jeebh who asks him to show the progress of Bocca's plan (his endgame to invade the human world and transforming it into a planet-scale Hito Press farm) and the data from Jeebh's battle training in episode 43. He then directs them to his lab/workshop which is located in separate room. This is likely where he's dealing with (read: distract) Liselle and Jeebh.
In the scene @ 07:28, Shouma is preparing his attire as a Nyelv cosplayer, haha.
An RG which was at Nyelv's office several moments earlier then comes to give him a signal which likely means that Nyelv has also just begin executing his part of the deal to distract Liselle and Jeebh.
In the scene @ 07:49, Hanto, Lage 9, and Sachika are trying to open random doors in Tokyo to see whether they lead to the so-called Door Room. And yes, like I've said above (and a gazillion times before, haha
): God forbid, as usual in this atrocious story, in a very very
very
convenient coincidence, in the scene @ 07:57, Sachika does find it when she sees one of Nyelv's agents transporting several part-timers back into the Granute world via the so-called Door Room. This scene is not only atrociously convenient, but also dumb because the agent is doing it at a public place, not at a private place controlled by Stomach corporation, such as Jebbh/Liselle's villa and various Hito Press collection points. Out of nowhere, Lango Mango appears and unmasks the Granute who was newly-trafficked in episode 44. The Granute recognizes Lango Mango even in his human disguise and is grateful that he's still alive, and when Lango Mango asks him what the heck is going on, he can only tell him that it was Nyelv who instructed the part-timers to return to the Granute world. So yeah, this scene it uber-atrocious and uber-convenient because it easily gives 2 pieces of crucial information to Sachika at once: The location of a door that lead to the so-called Door Room, and the fact that Lango Mango is still alive.
In the scene @ 09:04, Sachika the heroine-with-virtually-no-backstory-except-2-mundane-facts-that-she-has-a-filthy-rich-grandma-and-that-she-lives-in-the-same-apartment-complex-as-Ritsu is trying to confront Lango Mango and tells him that she's Shouma's friend. She's upset at Lango Mango for killing the part-timer, albeit having already been told an intel about Nyelv's plan. Lango Mango's answer if bafflingly idiotic: He killed the part-timer because he says that the poor part-timer was trying to kill him despite knowing that he's Lango Mango the stupidest CEO villain, and since he's the CEO, he can do whatever he wants to his workers who he sees as mere disposable pawns. It upsets Sachika even more because she thinks that she's also a CEO that employs Shouma, and she starts her usual shallow, naive lecture about the CEO's responsibility of the hApPiNeSs of the employees and customers.
In the scene @ 10:05, Hanto and Lage 9 arrive at the scene to calm down Sachika the heroine-with-virtually-no-backstory-except-2-mundane-facts-that-she-has-a-filthy-rich-grandma-and-that-she-lives-in-the-same-apartment-complex-as-Ritsu, while Lango Mango is warning them that Shouma is being manipulated and used as a pawn by Nyelv in his scheme to overthrow Bocca. I asked above how Lage 9/Hanto/Sachika would open the door to access the so-called Door Room since they're not members of the Stomach family (including Shouma) and or their agents, and the answer is in the scene @ 10:37 when Lango Mango himself authorize the door and leave it open to allow Lage 9/Hanto/Sachika to access the so-called Door Room. This means that Lango Mango is
also
manipulating them and using them as pawns in his conflict with Nyelv and Bocca, like Lage 9 says later @ 11:54 before he and Hanto are entering the so-called Door Room.
In the scene @ 11:04, Shouma is entering the so-called Door Room to go to Bocca's presidential palace, and introduces himself as Nyelv Stomach to one of the guard Butlers (Bocca's agents). Bocca asks Shouma the Nyelv cosplayer (haha
) whether his consultation has anything to do with his endgame to invade the human world and transforming it into a planet-scale Hito Press farm, and Shouma the Nyelv cosplayer answers that he's just asking for additional budget and shows Bocca the data on Nyelv's tablet.
In the scene @ 12:59, Hanto and Lage 9 who are inside the so-called Door Room are randomly trying to find a door that leads to a corridor in the Granute world. Not sure what corridor they're talking about. Perhaps one inside the Stomach mansion.
In the scene @ 13:09, Shouma the Nyelv cosplayer is shooting Bocca with the Nyelv-improved Kenzoumbie/KR Bitter Gavv v4.0's Bake Magnum to hypnotize him and tries to attack Bocca who is supposedly hypnotized. Yep, my hypothesis last week at the end of my 1st post in episode 45 thread
here
is proven to be 100% correct in this scene. Nyelv's plan
does
ultimately involve making Shouma cosplay as Nyelv (by copying Nyelv's whole human attire) in order to try to fool Bocca and then strike him once his guard is down. This scene is just another evidence (among a gazillion other ones) of how pathetically, laughably, embarrassingly, indefensibly lazy, sloppy, heavy-handed, and atrocious KR (God forbid) Gavv's story is. Nyelv's plan has proved that he's as shallow and stupid as Lango Mango is, so I'd like to repost my point about it in my 1st post in episode 45 thread
here
:
"Doesn't Bocca even notice that he's a completely different guy?
I've always asked: why the heck has Nyelv been wearing his human disguise in the Granute world almost the entire time?
Why the heck hasn't he just shown his true Granute form in the Granute world?
The answer is likely:
Plot convenience
, as always in this atrocious story. Shouma, being a human-Granute hybrid, doesn't have a Granute form, so he needs to cosplay as Nyelv (by copying Nyelv's whole human attire) in order to try to fool Bocca and then strikes him once he lets his guard down. If this is indeed Nyelv's plan to take down Bocca, then I was 1000000000000000% totally wrong about him, because it means that Nyelv is as shallow and stupid as Lango Mango is."
Shouma the Nyelv cosplayer/KR Gavv in his Gochipod form Over/Master modes is trying to attack Bocca. Bocca initially thinks that Shouma the Nyelv cosplayer is the real Nyelv, but when he transforms into KR Gavv, he's just realized that Shouma the Nyelv cosplayer is just Shouma the Aka Gabu, which he says because he can't tell humans apart. Helllllllllloooooooooo, Bocca???
Nyelv is a Granute, not a human, so hasn't it occurred in your dumb mind that the fact that Nyelv always insists on wearing his Mimic Key/human disguise all the frakkin' time even in the Granute world means that he's very likely plotting something against you?
Heck, even I, Zolda, a mere human with peanut-sized brain was already able to read pretty much the whole writing on the wall since a week ago(!) in episode 45. My Lord in heaven, this atrocious story is just sooooooooooooooooooo chock-full of brain dead, stupid, idiotic characters, be it the protagonists, the villains, the weekly guest characters/kaijins of the week, or even the background characters/extras. Long story short, Shouma the Nyelv cosplayer/KR Gavv, even in his Gochipod form Over/Master modes, is still overpowered by Bocca. The fight scene is nice, but what's the point of nice-looking, well-choreographed fight scenes when the underlying story is pathetically, laughably, embarrassingly, indefensibly lazy, sloppy, heavy-handed, and atrocious? All credits go to the hard-working directors/action directors/suit actors/etc, and none to the writers.
In the scene @ 15:58, Hanto and Lage 9 who were inside the so-called Door Room several moments ago manage to find the door that leads not to a corridor inside the Stomach mansion in the Granute world, but to the path to Bocca's presidential palace. As usual in this atrocious story, in a very very
very
convenient coincidence, out of a gazillion of random, non-descript doors inside the so-called Door Room, Hanto and Lage 9 manage to find one door they're looking for by
randomly
trying several among a gazillion of doors. Even the writers managed to give themselves the cheat code to enter God mode and manipulate statistics, haha.
What an atrociously lazy writing. Several short walks outside, they manage to find the location of Bocca's presidential palace when they see the ruckus caused by the fight between Shouma the Nyelv cosplayer/KR Gavv in his Gochipod form Over/Master modes and Bocca the stupidest politician villain. Lage 9/KR Vram and Hanto/KR Valen arrive at the right time @ 18:42 to shield (see what I did there? Haha.
) Shouma the Nyelv cosplayer/KR Gavv who is about to be finished off by Bocca.
In the scene @ 19:40, Bocca visits visits Nyelv's lab/workshop to kick his ass and finds that Liselle and Jeebh are also there. Nyelv is of course surprised when he sees that Bocca's nice white suit is still white as ever, haha.
Well, Nyelv, I can only say to you: Surprise surprise, sucker!
Even I, a mere human with peanut-sized brain, was already able to read pretty much your whole scheme since a week ago(!) in episode 45. Congratulations, Nyelv! You've just demonstrated that you're as shallow and stupid as Lango Mango is!
A painful, torturous punishment from Bocca is likely waiting for you, Nyelv.
In the scene @ 20:15, Lage 9/KR Vram and Hanto/KR Valen manage to take Shouma the Nyelv cosplayer/KR Gavv back from the Granute world and fend off several Butlers in pursuit. And yep, like I hypothesized last week in episode 45 thread
here
, Sachika the heroine-with-virtually-no-backstory-except-2-mundane-facts-that-she-has-a-filthy-rich-grandma-and-that-she-lives-in-the-same-apartment-complex-as-Ritsu is giving a speech and scolding Shouma the Nyelv cosplayer for not trying to share his burden/duty with the other protagonists. And of course, as usual, it's accompanied with her cringey speech/lecture about hApPiNeSs.
End of episode, haha.
Next week:
Bocca is commencing his endgame.
Jeebh and Liselle are unleashing many copies of the Dark Shoumas' RG's in the human world. What are those for?
Lage 9 are encountering many humans who are seemingly blissfully hApPy. Perhaps this is the effect of Bocca's endgame, which like I hypothesized in my 1st post in episode 42 thread
here
could use the bigger, much more powerful version of Kenzoumbie's hypnotizing Bake Magnum. Perhaps it's some kind of broadcast antenna to mind-control the humans, which works in reverse of the Riddler's Remote Encephalogram Stimulator Box aka NygmaTech Box in Batman Forever (1995)?
Don't know!
Nyelv says he's also afraid of his own life. Perhaps this is the moment that he's
finally
realized that he's just Bocca's pawn all along.
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