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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 48- "Burning AmazinGummy!" Discussion
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08-16-2025, 09:09 PM
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Zolda
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Original, unedited post:
Yep. My hypothesis in my post in episode 43 thread
here
is proven to be quite correct in this episode @ 12:23 when Liselle the spoiled rich brat is kidnapped by Lango Mango after he beats up the Butler who's guarding her. She's ultimately just an emotional vulnerability for Bocca, and ends up being a mere bait to lure Bocca out in order to be gangbanged by Lango Mango and the Riders. What's even infinitely stupider is the fact that Bocca (who is the Granutes' frakkin' president!) doesn't even order his personal presidential security force or the Granute military's best spec-ops team to deal with Lango Mango's petty scheme. Where's his authority as a leader, or to be exact, a ruthless, corrupt, despotic leader?
Isn't the point of being a powerful, ruthless, corrupt leader is that he uses his "invisible hands" (aka his authority/influence) and deals with his enemies by using his subordinates' and or other people's hands?
What the heck's the point of being a powerful, ruthless, corrupt president if he has to deal with every single petty problems
with his own hands
?
Bocca = The stupidest politician villain
ever
.
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Elaborated, edited post:
In the opening monologue @ 00:01, Shouma says that Bocca has commenced his plan to dominate the human world by forcing humans to be hApPy and manipulate them as cattle. Maaannn, this atrocious story really really
reeeeeally
needs to tone down their hApPy hApPy hApPy hApPiNeSs nonsense. It feels like they're trying to Jedi mind trick me into being hApPy hApPy hApPy, haha.
In the scene @ 00:23, Bocca has defeated Shouma/KR Gavv and Hanto/KR Valen, and he could very very
very
easily finish them off right then and there. Stupidly, as always, he doesn't do that, because 1 minute later Liselle is told by a Butler that the Stomach workers have finished retrieving the Hito Pressed humans, and they casually head back to the Granute world. Bocca has been given several golden chances to easily kill pretty much all the Riders, but he has never done that. Why? The answer is soooooooooooooooooooo painfully obvious: Because he's stupid (like all the characters in this atrocious story), and the writers needed him to be defeated by Lango Mango and the Riders later in this episode.
In the scene @ 03:00, Shouma, Hanto, and Lage 9 are talking about Nyelv's idiotic, nonsensical death at the end of episode 47 last week. Well, I'm
also
still laughing at the sheer, utter stupidity, idiocy, braindeadness of that atrocious, Yuuya Takahashi-level plot twist (read: asspull) scene, haha.
Hanto's just realized that Nyelv was serious about taking revenge on Bocca, and apologizes to Shouma for not believing him when he worked with Nyelv in his cosplay scheme to kill Bocca in episodes 45-46. If Nyelv didn't stupidly die at the end of episode 47 last week, then Hanto has no reason to apologize to Shouma, so yeah, Nyelv must die a laughably stupid, idiotic, nonsensical death just to make Shouma look good. This atrocious story is truly the peak of lazy writing. Shouma and the others are planning to catch and destroy the Dummy RG's around the city to prevent humans from being manipulated. In the scene @ 05:09, he starts to realize that their effort is futile unless they defeat Bocca, and at that moment he's just realized something, probably a possibility of working with Lango Mango.
In the scene @ 05:23, Lage 9 is trying to spray Sachika's and Masaru's Hito Presses with Dente-made neutralizer/antidote for Stomach's gaseous/liquid copy of his awfully plot-convenient hApPiNeSs neurotoxin in order to neutralize the hypnotizing effect of the Dummy RG's.
In the scene @ 06:12, Liselle is showing Bocca a box of high-quality Hito Pressed humans, and yes, the very satisfied Bocca himself acknowledges his plan to not only manipulate the next election, but also the entire Granute society. So yeah, exactly like I've said since several episodes ago, Bocca's endgame is pretty much using the Dark Snacks to manipulate the entire Granute society, starting with the aristocrats/wealthy. What's utterly stupid, idiotic, and braindead is that it's a totally unnecessary plan, because he already had a similar plan but much simpler. I'd like to repost my point about it in the 3rd paragraph of my post in episode 43 thread
here
:
"I think perhaps Bocca's endgame (about transforming the entire human world into a planet-scale Hito Press farm) is part of his ultimate political scheme of manipulating virtually all of Granute's population by using Dark Snacks. Buuuuuttttt, at the beginning of episode 41, it was shown that he already had the dead body of his assassinated political rival whom he said to possess hypnosis power. If Nyelv was able to combine the poor Granute politician's body with Kenzou's body, then he should've been able to combine it with
another Granute
's body, and then used it to hypnotize the entire Granute population. Which means: Bocca already had all the ingredients to create his ultimate tool of mass hypnosis that he'd ultimately use as his political weapon, without even involving Stomach corporation (except Nyelv) Dark Snacks, kidnapping humans, and all that crap. Bocca's convoluted endgame (about transforming the entire human world into a planet-scale Hito Press farm) is just the same exact plan with 10 extra steps, which of course,
will
end in Bocca's (and Liselle's) death, haha.
What he should do is:
- Keep the dead body of his assassinated political rival who he said to possess hypnosis power.
- Combine it with
another Granute
's body.
- Use it to manipulate the entire Granute population.
- Win the election and be the dictator president for the next 100 years.
Instead, what he's
actually
been doing is:
- Keep the dead body of his assassinated political rival who he said to possess hypnosis power.
- Combine it with a human's body.
- Use it to manipulate the entire human population.
- Use the entire human population as ingredients of Dark Snacks.
- Feed the Dark Snacks to the entire Granute population and manipulate them.
- Win the election and be the dictator president for the next 100 years.
- Of course, his convoluted plan
will
be screwed up at the last minutes by the protagonists, and it
will
end in Bocca's (and Liselle's) death.
Instead of winning the election by using a simple, straightforward plan, he's decided to use an uber-convoluted plan that
will
result in his own death. If this is what'll actually happen in the story, then I can only say:
What a dumb politician Bocca is!
"
Liselle is about to tell Jeebh to sell the Dark Snacks right away. Bocca asks her how long is she gonna keep Jeebh who he calls a weak son-in-law, since he's already holding the full control of the Stomach corporation, Dark Snacks factory, and the so-called Door Room. She says that she simply likes to see Jeebh who she also calls weak struggling in his weakness. Basically, she likes to keep him weak, and that's probably she was baffled in episode 47 @ 06:47 when his only reply was, "Thanks. I already knew that you'd say that, Liselle." She was baffled because he was starting to become
actually
stronger. She always fanned the flame and told him to become stronger, and now she was baffled when he actually became stronger and thanked her for her support (as he himself says @ 07:35 to Shita's ghost)?
If she wants to keep him weak, then what she should do is tell him that he's
already
strong, already at the top, and doesn't need to improve himself. Dang, this spoiled rich brat makes no sense at all, haha.
Oh, and why the heck do Liselle and Jeebh, like Nyelv, always wear their human disguises in the Granute world?
Why do they almost never show their Granute faces even in the Granute world?
And why do Shita's ghost always appears wearing her human disguise, not in her Granute face?
It just makes no sense at all.
In the scene @ 08:06, Lage 9 is releasing Masaru from his Hito Press. Later after Shouma has made his deal with Lango Mango, Masaru is trying to help Shouma when he sees that Lage 9 is about to go to Shouma's location because he thinks it's too dangerous for Lage 9 and Shouma. Great, now Masaru is also a busybody like Sachika is. After Sachika tells him that Shouma and the others have been through a lot, he probably starts to realize that Shouma and the others could be Kamen Riders.
In the scene @ 09:10, Shouma returns to the location where Sachika found the door (where one of Nyelv's agents was transporting several part-timers back into the Granute world) in a very very
very
convenient coincidence in episode 46 @ 07:57. He's trying to look for Lango Mango there. And yes, there he is. He's offering to help Shouma defeat Bocca.
In the scene @ 10:57, Shouma, Hanto, and Lage 9 are discussing about Lango Mango's proposal about joining forces to defeat Bocca. Shouma's condition for the deal is that Lango Mango must withdraw Stomach corporation's entire Dark Snack operation from the human world. Lango Mango agrees to the deal because he says his goal is to reclaim the Stomach corporation and rebuild the Stomach family, and his part of the deal is to lure Bocca out.
In the scene @ 12:23, Liselle the spoiled rich brat is kidnapped by Lango Mango after he beats up the Butler who's guarding her. Yep. My hypothesis in my post in episode 43 thread
here
is proven to be quite correct in this scene. She's ultimately just an emotional vulnerability for Bocca, and ends up being a mere bait to lure Bocca out in order to be gangbanged by Lango Mango and the Riders. And when her job of being an emotional bait for Bocca is done, she's freed by Jeebh @ 14:22. What's even infinitely stupider is the fact that Bocca (who is the Granutes' frakkin' president!) doesn't even order his personal presidential security force or the Granute military's best spec-ops team to deal with Lango Mango's petty scheme. Where's his authority as a leader, or to be exact, a ruthless, corrupt, despotic leader?
Isn't the point of being a powerful, ruthless, corrupt leader is that he uses his "invisible hands" (aka his authority/influence) and deals with his enemies by using his subordinates' and or other people's hands?
What the heck's the point of being a powerful, ruthless, corrupt president if he has to deal with every single petty problems
with his own hands
?
Bocca = The stupidest politician villain
ever
.
Long atrocious story short, Bocca the stupidest politician villain is embarrassingly defeated and killed after being gangbanged by Lango Mango and the Riders. There goes Bocca. He dies in the same episode where his full Granute form is shown. Yep, like I've said above, he's been given several golden chances to easily kill pretty much all the Riders, but he's never done that because the writers needed him to be defeated by Lango Mango and the Riders in this episode. The stupidest part of his embarrassing defeat is when he's stabbed in the back by Lango Mango @ 20:57 in a typical Yuuya Takahashi-level shock factor scene. Lango Mango's last appearance on the screen is @ 16:32, and he's totally absent from the scene, not even one line of dialogue... Until he comes out of nowhere exactly 4 minutes 25 seconds later @ 20:57 to conveniently stab Bocca in the back. Bocca doesn't even keep track of where his enemies are, and that's soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo conveniently stupid!
Wow, what a lazy writing. As usual, the hard-working directors/action directors/suit actors/etc (and even the actors) are doing their best to compensate for the laughably atrocious writing of this story, so all credits to them.
Gavv 48 @ 16:32
Gavv 48 @ 20:57
Oh, and I've just realized that the KR Gavv Amazin Gummy form was actually the one shown in the preview scene of episode 47 last week. I completely mistook it for KR Gavv Gochipod form Over mode due to them having very very
very
similar helmet shapes and very very
very
similar metallic orange color schemes. I didn't even bother to check KR Official website because I was too busy laughing at Nyelv's idiotic, nonsensical death, haha.
Like I've said in the 1st paragraph above, this atrocious story really really
reeeeeally
needs to tone down their hApPy hApPy hApPy hApPiNeSs nonsense, such as between @ 17:14-18:37 when Shouma is prattling on about hApPiNeSs before he produces the Amazin Gummy RG. The almost constant mention of the hApPy hApPy hApPy hApPiNeSs nonsense (mainly by Shouma and Sachika the heroine-with-virtually-no-backstory-except-2-mundane-facts-that-she-has-a-filthy-rich-grandma-and-that-she-lives-in-the-same-apartment-complex-as-Ritsu) is just soooooooooooooooooooo cringe-inducingly shallow. Like my wisecracker grandpa once remarked:
"Happiness is like a cat. If you chase it, it's getting further away from you. The most unhappy people are those who often talk about and chase happiness."
Now that Bocca is embarrassingly defeated, does it mean the story ends? Of course not, because it's revealed that Lango Mango doesn't keep his end of the bargain and chose to keep Bocca's assets for himself. It's revealed that Lango Mango is now the one who holds the ownership of Liselle's copy of Kenzoumbie/KR Bitter Gavv v4.0's Bake Magnum. What a shocker...
Not
, haha.
Yep, like I elaborated near the end of my post in episode 36 thread
here
, Lango Mango does return to the story as a post-final villain who takes revenge on the final villain (Bocca the stupidest politician villain). So predictable! The stupidest part of this scene is @ 22:32 when Shouma is only able to say, "Huhhh???", while Hanto and Lage 9 are making surprised faces. These 3 adult men have been betrayed by several villains in this atrocious story, yet they're soooooooooooooooooooo naive that they couldn't even see the possibility of Lango Mango betraying them, while my peanut brain was able to see that possibility since Lango Mango's first embarrasing, unceremonious defeat at the hands of Shouma/KR Gavv Gochipod form Master mode in episode 36(!). Betrayal is only painful if you haven't really prepared for it.
Next week:
Masaru has finally realized that Shouma and the others are Kamen Raidaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. It means: In the epilogue, Shouma would very likely live with him hApPiLy eVeR aFtEr, haha.
And gosh, Jeebh is just soooooooooooooooooo painful to look at. He's become a character that has overstayed his welcome for way way
waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy
too long. I was very stoked about his character, and now he's become a forgotten character. Now I can only ask, "Why the heck is he still in the story? When will he be eliminated?" Shita's death (which I think is ironically was the only one with somewhat satisfying ending among the other Stomach villains) in episode 14 at the hands of Shouma/KR Gavv Caking form was virtually in vain. You can't have nice things when the writers are 1000000000000000000000000% total hacks, haha.
And what about Liselle the spoiled rich brat? Perhaps she usurps Bocca's position, or is betrayed by Jeebh, or becomes Lango Mango's lackey, or is killed by Lango Mango, or gets off scot-free to be the villain for the V-Cinext or post-series story. Who knows.
Mmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyybbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeee...
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01:42 AM
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