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Kamen Rider Zeztz Case #22- "REVENGE" Discussion
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Quote:
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Frontier
My takeaway was that he had absolutely no idea what Catastrom was and that's why he didn't expect to see it. Like how he didn't expect Zeztz to be able to no-sell his attacks like that, because he clearly didn't expect it to be that absurdly strong and durable.
Entirely possible! But NOX also has a habit of saying things that sound vague but turn out to have very specific meaning, so given that he said back in 17 about Baku
"That persistence of yours will someday lead you to disaster."
...it also kinda sounds an awful lot like he
very much
expected something like this to happen eventually, as someone who
definitely
knows things about Baku that Baku himself has yet to fully figure out? Which would then account for him talking about Baku being a "product of bad dreams" at the very end here, and probably go a ways towards explaining the deeper motives behind stuff like trying to get Baku to give up being ZEZTZ entirely back in 13.
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Originally Posted by
Sh Ranger
Well I guess now I'm mad at the subs as well, there's a very big difference between knowing your heart and knowing your mind!
I think I was actually disappointed with that translation watching the first episode as well? I think I've mentioned before how much that dialogue in particular really got me excited to be watching this show, and I felt it sort of lacked the same
punch
the way it was rendered in English?
But I do get it now. Obviously the specific issue is that a big concept in this show is the Mind's Doors, which we've since heard Zero say in English, so it's evidently the explicit preference of the show's staff, but I think the justification goes beyond that. The nuance of the word "mind" conveys a broader emphasis on
thought
, as a whole, rather than strictly
feelings
, and I will admit that's much more true to how the show generally uses the word.
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Sh Ranger
As long as Baku/Seven does something, instead of the nothing that got his friends killed, then hopefully it will turn out okay.
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I don't think inaction was the right answer either, but the climax to this one absolutely felt to me like Baku running off half-cocked in a manner that's going to bite him, even if it's a necessary first step towards that eventual real solution.
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