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Kyoryuger Brave 1: "Let's Go! The Red King" Discussion
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02-18-2013, 10:59 PM
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MnemonicSyntax
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Originally Posted by
MKDremare
Honestly, anyone complaining about the designs of the robots and suits seem serious to me. I mean, it's meant for kids. Always been, always will. I've seen a lot of comments about Kyoryuger in other places that it's just head-scratchingly strange on how serious people have taken a kid's show. And yea, it's great to see new ideas and such, but it's annoying when I see people compare it to past series and be angry about how it's not "good", especially when it didn't even premiere until recently. I just hope that all the irrational dislike I've seen dies down.
Zyuranger was "also for kids" and their mecha was great. So was Abaranger, and their mecha was better than this. So, and no offense here, but that logic is out the window. They look like Playschool Dinosaurs. There's five dinos, and three molds, two of them repeated. Zyu and Aba didn't do that either, but it's all for kids.
I think you're confusing an opinion and discussion with angry. I'm not angry about it. It's not going to make me watch the show if it keeps my interest. I said in a previous thread about Riders that usually, I like the suit
or
the story, but generally not both. OOO was the first to do both for me. As much as I love Decade, that suit is loud! And I'll admit, it took some time getting used to the hero being pink (magenta :P ).
On the other hand, I get what you're saying about giving something a chance. I thought the mecha looked ridiculous before the show aired, because their appearance isn't going to change anything; they'll still look that same. That doesn't detract enough from me not watching it though and I agree with you regarding the jumping to conclusions based on what they see. The dancing is still ridiculous. But it's not a deal breaker.
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I honestly thought of "old" as "it's been done before". I've never thought of anything as "timeless", more like "dry periods of interest". And I can respect a person's opinion, as long as it's written with proper grammar, and doesn't resort to calling people names.
It just annoys me whenever I see people complain about a kid's show, no matter what it is. Yea, I'll agree with some points, but honestly, in the long run, I can't change anything, since I'm not the target audience. The only time I'll really complain, is when they're not treating the audience intelligently.
If you notice, most Sentai follows a theme. Harry Potter came out, and what was on the Sentai table? Magiranger. Pirates of the Carribean came out, and we got Gokai. There is a large Western influence on the theme for sentai... usually. I'm not seeing anything dino coming out on the horizon, but like I said, dinos are loved by kids, especially five-nine year old boys (I know, I have a six year old one myself XD )
Again, I get what you're saying, but not of of it's complaints, and some of those complaints are even legitimate in some cases. It's okay to hang up your brain on the shelf (I did it for the Matrix series) and suspend belief, but realize that some can't and want that plot hole filled. I personally don't need it, but for those that can't be open minded to wait for the show to air, I suggest you don't be opened minded to them and just not respond. What I mean is, if someone complains about the way the mecha look, that won't change. But for the guy that says "Mecha sux! Not watching!11!!1!!!1one!" then that's two different enchiladas.
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Matrixbeast
Wr-Wr-Wr-Wrong.
While the series is for a younger audience, I want to point you in the direction of Mobile Suit Gundam. A series that was written for a mature audience but garnered a large audience of all ages, primarily because of interest in the robots and designs.
Writing and story determines the age range, but design is different. The design of the suits and the mecha is something that anyone can get into, regardless of age.
Expressing distaste towards how the series's aesthetic isn't taking it too seriously. Design is something that has to appeal to the larger audience, since you can only really draw outside viewers in on visual cues, and, believe it or not, Toei wants these shows to succeed with more than just the "Boys, age 6-13" market.
Agreed. Careful with the stuttering there, someone might think you like Decade
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Originally Posted by
MKDremare
Eh, still. People taking the whole idea of people fighting in colorful spandex seriously seems more silly than anything. Yes, aesthetic is important to draw in viewers, but complaining about it is just stupid. Expressing distaste and outright complaining are two different things to me, since I consider expressing distaste to be explaining WHY you don't like it maturely, while outright complaining is just complaining without giving real reasons.
Based on this comment, I think we've reached an agreement. Just realize though that when some people say the mecha look terrible, and have no explanation, they may not be able to articulate themselves enough to get the point across. I think they look terrible, cheesy, and like Playschool Dinosaurs. Their appearance isn't aesthetically pleasing to my eyes. That's all there is to it though. To me, it's just... not good. But I'm not going to cast judgement on the show before I see it.
Another example is the Gosei mechs. They're incredible! I love animal mecha and when they combine with vehicles that's awesome too. But... didn't Go-Onger do that? Same idea, but I think Goseiger pulled it off better. But if we want to talk same-season, I think Datas and Mystic Runner are lame, but they have their own dynamics that redeem those qualities. But Gosei Ultimate... doesn't fit at all. It's a futuristic jet with headders on it, but he doesn't have any redeeming qualities for me. One that would come to mind if he was required to bring all the mech together, but that's not even the case, he's just a backpack! It's a cop-out.
I hope you understand what I'm saying. Not every season is going to appeal to everyone and so Toei does what they can to appeal to the
masses
which is what matters in the end.
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