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Originally Posted by Drakkhen

I'm sorry but no. You do not learn Japanese watching fansubs. You learn it by taking classes. Any real translator or person that has studied Japanese or any other language would say the same. You can not learn a language by watching fansubs. And again, like the other person, you miss the point. It doesn't matter what you perfer hearing. Subs are meant to allow a person to enjoy a show that does not speak the shows original language. Leaving random phrases and words in only caters to the people that think Japanese is a special thing that can not be changed, or to people that like the sound of Japanese words. To that I say that's great. But don't think that's how subs should really be.

I'm well aware you cannot fully learn a language in such a way. I know because I'm currently in a Chinese class, a language I could never learn in such a simple way. I have done a fair bit of studying of Japanese outside of subtitles and I have never taken a class. My understanding is extremely limited and will not get better without actual study. Chinese and Japanese have a lot in common. I guess it's similar to how one would pick up a language after living in a foreign country for a while.

Aside from that, I do completely understand your point. Although the different views on the matter is what resulted in the many many different fansub groups and their styles of subtitles. Yes, the way they SHOULD be subbed is how you describe, but not everyone is completely in the dark on Japanese now, even some people who've learned Japanese will still watch with subtitles because their understanding is not extensive. So the partially untranslated stuff works perfectly fine. This is one of those things that's best left alone. Watch what you like, and ignore the rest. I have the same outlook on the console wars. Everything now is personal preference. There is the way things SHOULD be done and then the way people LIKE it to be done. If no one liked it, groups like TVN wouldn't exist.

Edit: I totally missed a bunch of posts when I posted this, so if there are any redundancies, that is why.