[SideswipePrime]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Double posting, but since it's to post the last two Den-O eps, I feel it's worth it. Besides, I have a lot to say. The third Rider series I've ever completed.

48: I'm just gonna say it, Leonardo's last hurrah really felt cheap. It was literally just Kintaros' but without the same weight or minimal forthought. I can't say I'm happy about the same basic scene being replayed and them expecting the same emotional return, ESPECIALLY when it makes no sense. He's fighting three goons, the only three goons on Denliner, kills them, then a magical army appears. How? Where? I dunno. The entire thing with Airi is cool in concept, but I feel is very, very random. There was so much twisting and turning. This show basically had no overarching plot for about thirty solid episodes, now we're swimming in convoluted plotlines, character motivations, timelines and ideas. The best part is the whole "Rotorstorm needs to forget the baby in order to keep it safe." That's a pretty cool idea... except if he forgets the baby how can the baby exist and become a future singularity point? This show has done one thing almost consistently: memories are time, and without them, the past will not exist. So that's why the only people to know of the baby had to forget/leave. So how is the baby still existing? I thought... ugh, this makes no sense.

49: Oh boy, Kai. What can I say about Kai except WHAT? How, I can't, I don't... he just, he just decides to destroy this era. No planning, no wiping out the singularity point or connecting times or anything, just wipe it out.

Kai...

Honey...

Baby...

Pumpkin pie...

Why didn't you just...

I dunno...

Do this before? Why'd you waste time with Imagins if you could just do what you wanted whenever? Why'd you need a specific time if you could just do your temporal tantrum whenever you felt like? The show basically retconned him as the entire reason Imagin are running around, and made all these random, senseless acts into some sort of contrived plan... that he just dumps out the window the second things get a bit too hard, at literally zero detriment to his overall goal. So basically, the entire conflict of this show was entirely pointless.

Wha-hat.

The heh-ell.

Whatever, the whole revelation with Hana was good. I saw it coming, and it certainly adds a cool dynamic to the show overall. Deffinately one of the cleverer moves. Leo and Kintaros coming back was expected, since we never saw them die. The best part, as usual, is Yuuto and Deneb. They were hardman fighters and the last card... man, Yuuto should've been the star of this show. Calling him a "secondary" rider is almost degrading for him. But you know who doesn't recive my praise?

Ryuutaros. For the sake of accurately describing my feelign son him I've earned to speel his name right, but that in no way equates the level of respect for teh character I have for Momotaros, Kintaros or Yuuto/Deneb. he feels utterly and totally pointless, and it's like the show is relaising that. No last stand for him, no shining character moment of loyalty and bravado like Momo and Deneb. He seems like something completely added and not very well. I know he's been in the show forever, but he serves no crucial purpose. Even his colour doesn't make sense. Purple is such a weird colour alongside red, yellow and blue. Speaking of weird Imagin, hi Seig. Have't seen you for a while. You're still dumb. And YES! Vega Form, I thought I'd never see you again. And I still wish your eyes were yellow, but who cares.

Also, that dark Imagin that Kai barfed up, he's kind of a letdown. He's just a big brute. I shall call him Nonotaros, because he looks like Momo if Momo played in wet cement. (because life's too short man, wet cement is begging to be messed up) That said, fuck that final attack was pretty neat. Though I felt the Imagin's little prank not only busted the emotion a bit, but was kind of cruely out of character. (Also why does Seig get to join in on teh hetero man-touching? But, it made for a good end and of course, the best was Yuuto finally eating the shitcake or whatever. I can't believe how much fun those two were.

So that was Den-O. It was a hell of a ride, and I don't say that often. Overall, while I'll ptrobably go into more detail later, I'd say this ranks up evenly with OOO for me because holy shit I have never been so invested in these characters. Yuuto is the best secondary rider I've ever seen, and maybe one of my favourite Kamen Riders ever. That said, there were some big-ass flaws. Even with it's more metphysical approach to time travel this show is a headache that can't follow it's own rules clearly. A lot, and I mean a lot of really random shit happens for purely thematic reasons. Much like Eiji, Ryoutaro doesn't feel like the focus as much as the title charatcer should. Unlike Eiji, though, this feels intentional, and he still feels as useful as he needs to be, unlike how Eiji often felt almost superfluous to the show at times. He's no Shotaro and Philip, but those are two characters who came after Ryoutaro and had a much different goal as a character. And Ryoutaro's relationship with Momotaros was easily the highlight of the charatcer, the only downside being it was almost dwarfed by the much more engaging, yet sadly not often as developed, relationship between Deneb and Yuuto.

Now the big question: which series next? Back to Agito, or a new series?

Yeah...I hated Kai too...I'm glad to see that you enjoyed it overall. I think the reason Hana still exists is because the Owner said that the events of the past do not effect the singularity point in question. i.e. if they die in the past, they'll still remain alive in the future. It kind of makes sense if you go by the Tenth Doctor's explaination:

I also do agree with you that the characters are Den-O's strongest point.(and it was Shittake mushrooms that he was trying to get him to eat.)

EDIT: and to answer your question: the belt is just called the "Den-O Belt" they didn't start calling them "Drivers" until Decade.

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Gremlin is a character that takes the shadow manipulator too far. There's having an agenda that requires you to stay hidden, but his actions are one step off from having no rhyme or reason.
I understand that he's supposed to be mysterious and all will be revealed by the end, but that doesn't change that I find him to be grating and a dull character (He might giggle constantly, but that doesn't make him any more interesting to watch).



The Den-O movies, in order, are I'm Born (Which occurs in series), Climax Deka (Post series crossover with Kamen Rider Kiva), and Final Countdown (The last Den-O movie to have Satou play Ryotaro).

There's also Cho Den-O and Decade, a crossover movie with Decade (It occurs during Decade's series).

The Cho Den-O Trilogy is the last of the Den-O movies* (Though, Episode Yellow is about Kaito/Diend, a Kamen Rider Decade character).

*Let's Go top bills Den-O, so it's technically a Den-O movie, too

Even though Ryotarou and Wataru barely interacted...