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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Doesn't change the fact that it's the first canon cross over between Heisei Riders (Agito vs. Ryuki was HBV, right?)

Eh.

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

So before I go on to the next series, I'm gonna mow down those Den-O movies. First up is Climax Deka and, uh, the beginning is... interesting. Also, I feel like everyone should just go easy on the word "Evil Organization."

EDIT; Finished it, and I dunno, I didn't really like it? It seemed like it focused way to much on tehd etective angle, which would be okay... if this were a movie about W and had the smooth jazz music and cool thirties imagery and tone. But it's Den-O, and Den-O will be Den-O. Instead we get what can only be described as the most random-freaking-ass shift from Den-O along with some genuinely stupid things, like Momotaros using a shotgun. Wait, what? Okay, ignoring the complete and utter lunacy of that, isn't Momotaros a sword specialist and Ryuutaros a gun nut? Also, that entire plot with the cryign detective guy was pointless and annoying.

I cna only imagine how Kiva fans felt, though, considering he's barely freaking in it and has like, what, five lines? And to someone who knows nothing of Kiva... that hasn't changed. Kiva himself didn't do or say anything, he played a violin for a second which came out of nowhere, he just shows up at the end when his little bat guy flies around, then BOOM, dragon castle. (!?!?) And I though Denliner got crazy. And Negataros was a dumb villain. An inverted Momotaros (what kind of sense does that make) and sword form in purple. Holy shit man try to be less interesting, you're completely overshadowing all these other, much more interesting, characters.

I'm glad someone agrees with me.

And Kotaro gets better as the movies go on. He was a jerk in this one...and Negataros does have some design differences if you look closely.

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Den-O Final Countdown: Well, that was a thing. New Den-O is kind of lame. The design is okay, but it feels like the focus was misplaced. New Den-O was barely a factor in the movie overall. More time was spent with that Gaoh repaint. And really, for a form called "Skull form" and "Highjack form" they in no way evoke a skull or any kind of highjaking save that little doofy skull on the forehead.

I mean, Den-O's strength is it's characters, and they were better here than in Deka. So this is the last movie to have Ryoutaro's actor in it? Does he get recast or is the charatcer written out? What's Onishigamagaguy Warship? (For some reason it's attached to Final Countdown on youtube)

I didn't mide Final Countdown, I actually didn't like Climax Deka as much.

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I actually liked Final Countdown.

Anyway, yeah, Ryotaro's actor no longer appears. I think in Onigashima Warship (The official title is Cho Den-O And Decade: Onigashima Warship), they use Kotaro (The kid Ryotaro from the first Den-O movie, I'm Born) to explain it away.

You don't need to watch Decade to understand it (He kind of pulls a Kiva, just popping up for the Climax), though, but the scene with Sieg is explained away in Decade's series.

Oh, and you still have the Cho Den-O Trilogy, if you haven't watched those yet (Only Episode Yellow deals with a non Den-O character).

Man...I still need to watch the Chou Den-O trilogy...I know I don't have to, but since I'm watching Decade currently anyway, I would rather wait until I get to that point in the series.