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Originally Posted by MnemonicSyntax

What attitude? Did you not see the multiple times I posted about having lives and what some the actors now do?

I also finished my entire spiel with "it's not worth it" and asked you your response on that. You don't seem to understand that it's not about the money for money sake, it's about the money for "can I feed my family if I do this, will my business that I busted my ass for survive without me, is it going to put me in the hole."

No one is being selfish here. Except for the people who want the actors to do something that isn't feasible, ideal or logical. It's not logical to put out 2 grand on travel alone, then pay for everything else and receive nothing from it except a few minutes of screentime. It's not.



But that's all Saban though. You're putting the blame (rightfully so) on Saban.

Oh, you think the actors should have done this? When most of them don't even know about Megaforce in the first place, you know the same actors that have moved on?



Jesus, did you read anything I said? While most have moved on from Power Rangers, that same group of people still appreciate their fans. Just because they're not footing the bill for a plane ride to New Zealand and not getting anything in return doesn't mean they don't care. The two aren't mutally exclusive.



Says who? You? I've told friends that have invited me to weddings out of state that if they're not footing the bill, I'm not going. They understand that it's not personal, but financial.

Again, these "trips" you talk about are generally within the same country and not literally half way around the world! People just don't have 2 grand to go do something for a few days and work without receiving something for it. And again, it's not about the money, it's about it being worth it.



To somebody they don't even know. Sure, the actors love their fans, but the difference is, with a graduation, a wedding, or a birthday party, that's close, personal relationships. These people are not your friends. They're not your acquaintences. They're the people you looked up to on a children's TV show. That time has passed now. Move on.



Does it? Michael Keaton says hi. So does Val Kilmer.

(And even then, both would get some sort of compensation for flying out to New Zealand, damn straight)

No offense to you, but I wonder how old you are. Not only do you not seem to have a grasp on financial obligations, life's priorities, but you also seem to be wearing those rose colored glasses still.

You're speaking for the fans. It's like you're trying to put a guilt trip on us here. Many of us have accepted that it's just not financially responsible to go do what you want the actors to do, which is why we're not blaming the actors. Don't name drop the entire fandom just because you're unhappy with the way things are turning out and you expect someone else to resolve Saban's mistakes.

I'll have to requote this as well:



Why do you think that is?



You sound so selfish here. Really. The scenarios you're describing are not exclusive to each other. The actors don't need to go out and do something that may jeopardize everything they've worked for because you want them to. It has nothing to do with that you're being betrayed, but because to them, you're fan number #451342. You're not a close relative or neighbor or friend. It's not personal. It's also not logical or feasible to "run off and make the fans happy" either. So please, stop taking it so personally as a fan. They still care about their fans.

You're really painting an oversimplified and quite frankly dishonest picture. You make it seem like making the trip would be a certain and instant financial catastrophe equivalent to the actor in question blowing up their small business in a tokusatsu style explosion with their family inside. It's dramatic, misleading, and unnecessary. Nobody's being asked to destroy their lives to participate. All it takes is a little planning and a person can take a trip at their own expense without it meaning financial oblivion. In fact, millions of people do it every day, traveling for recreational purposes, or to attend special events like reunions. It absolutely CAN be financially responsible with a little effort.

If you're a former Power Ranger, there's really no excuse to NOT know about MegaForce. I mean, you really have to be living under a rock or willfully ignoring it to have no concept that the show still exists. And that claim is total bullshit considering that these same people who have moved on are the ones who have taken to social media to complain about the poor pay or the short notice. They can't be that unplugged. I'm sure that since Gokaiger aired in Japan, they've been hearing the chatter about it from fans through social media. So anyone who claims to have been caught totally off guard by this, it's just weak excuse.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not taking Saban's side here. I just want to see MegaForce be as good as it can be. Saban screwed up. We get it. Shame on them. But that's an awfully sour note to simply leave things on. I want as much as anyone to see the actors be paid fairly for their time, and I don't want them to be faced with financial hardship as a result of participating. But the standoff does nobody any good. So rather than simply dwelling on Saban's screw up with the first move, it would be nice to see the actors come back with something constructive and start the conversation that might lead to a better outcome. Instead they're complaining to third parties, and as valid as their grievances may be, it helps nobody. All it does is continue to polarize the debate, and the result is folks like you who simply think Saban = evil and the actors = good and don't really care about anything else.

While you see me as selfish fan #451342, I see 451,342+ fans who want to see MegaForce not suck. So it would be nice to see some of the actors, on behalf of those fans, reach out to Saban and at least try to make it work (even if in the end it doesn't), ideally with some sort of compromise. Increase the budget a little, delay the filming, re-invite some of the uninvited rangers, something to make it better than the shitty situation we have right now. I don't think that's selfish. I think it's a lot more selfish to refuse to even try simply because "I don't want to and you can't make me!" or there's not enough money in it.