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What are you watching? (Kamen Rider Edition)
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05-18-2013, 02:28 PM
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SPLIT LIP
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I was on like episode 13 - 14, the big bad just revealed himself if I remember correctly with like some weird killer shadow, it all looked very silly, even for Toku.
No it wasn't.
Seriously, be honest, a "killer shadow" isn't anywhere close to the regular silliness of Toku. Also it wasn't a killer shadow. If anything it was like fear gas. (the big bad is the terror dopant, and he releases that stuff to, well, cause fear in his enemies)
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My main dislike for the series was the action scenes didn't really fit with the style of show the rest of the series was going with, meaning I was never really convinced by W as a Rider and as if the show knew it didn't work as a whole unit, it seemed to put a lot more emphasis on the drama than the action which resulted in poor plotting, clunky fight sequences and some of the worst CGI I have ever seen.
CGI aside (because yeah, W had some terrible early CGI, mostly because of how much it was used. Something I've come to realise carried over from Decade it seems) that's a complete crock of bull. W's fights scenes are awesome. The actual martial arts verses FX attacks is awesome, and the two are blended really well. The fights also happen logically and fit in with the plot.
In just about every KR series I've watched there's been a certain disconnect between the fight scenes and drama. Den-O and Agito had this pretty prominently. The heroes are always far away from the enemy or action literally until it's time to fight, with Den-O literally being dropped off and Agito having nothing at all to do with the plot until he needed to fight. W actually had the heroes be in the plot. The investigation side of things meant that the heroes were always mixed right in with the enemy and their motives, rather than gardening half the episode or lazing around in a trian car or diner.
I'm not saying you have to like it, but your reasons for disliking it are pretty flimsy, especially when you compare it to other toku, which just kind of makes your arguement fall apart when W does all these Toku tropes
better
than how they usually are.
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It would have been fine as a Japanese Supernatural Drama show but I thought this was supposed to be a Japanese Superhero show? It barely felt like it.
Really, because how is saving lives and fighting monsters not superhero stuff?
Again, since you want to, compared to past series W's more of a superhero than most. Specifically, he's a very Batman-style superhero. He fully focuses on the enemy and problem, devoting all his effort to it and being almost constantly "on the trail," instead of just standing around talking about the problem, or not, until it's time to fight.
You know how in Power Rangers the Rangers would spend most of their unmorphed time at school or their lives or stuff, only really dealing with the monster when it's time to morph and fight? That's how a lot of KR series seem to me. When not fighting the hero is dealing wth his
own
problems and his
own
life, not working to defeat the enemy the whole time like in W. There is no disconnect, no forgettable subplot while we wait for the next fight each episode. W's always fighting dopants, even when he's not. That's more superhero to me than a coffee break or tomatos for sure.
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