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What are you watching? (Kamen Rider Edition)
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07-25-2013, 12:39 PM
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SPLIT LIP
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Starscreamer
His purpose for the Rider War was the fact he had no reservations about fighting...his job was essentially to goose the fights and to weed down the combatants...you described him as a wild dog...yup, that is his purpose. Where there is a fight, you'll find him...he had no noble reason...just wanted to fight and win! He could care less about sickness...or riches...or some girlfriend in a coma (I know, it's serious...)...he'll kill you anyway...as for the suit actor, he did more than just stretch his neck. If you watched how he fought, he had no finesse, just brutal swings backed by strength. He was a walking blunt object. Ya won't win this with me lol
You won't win this with me.
That right there, everything you just said, is rubbish. It's BORING. That's not how you write the main villain. Like I said, what's stopping them from just taking his deck away?
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Originally Posted by
Dr Kain
He holds a restaurant hostage.
He puts a gun to a girls head.
He kills Gai.
He kills Raia.
He acquired Raia and Gai's Contract Monsters
He used a girl as bait to feed his Contract Monsters
He kills his brother by seducing Reiko
He tricks a lawyer into thinking he is being treated inhumanely.
He kills Goro
He runs out to meet his fate against an army of cops with guns
And then everything Starscreamer just said. Once you discover Shiro's plans in the early 40s, you'll know why someone like Asakura winning would be in Shiro's favor.
None of that makes for an interesting character, though.
Nothing he does is fun to watch. That's all just "I'm a bad guy." He's has no personality. He's a cardboard cutout.
Also, thanks for the spoilers. Tags don't work when you're quoting. Now I have another reason to utterly despise this "character" and enjoy Ryuki less overall.
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Originally Posted by
Switchblade
Yeah, there's very much a reason why most of the Riders are psycho- and/or sociopathic. Tezuka and Shinji are anomalies and, you'll notice, they were the only two Riders that Kanzaki didn't choose to join the war.
But Zolda is nicely rounded. He's sympathetic, but you could take his smug self-interest and apply it to Ouja minus any illness or "I'm not such a bad guy" moments and have a much better character.
You guys keep describing actions, which is my fault because I say he doesn't
do
anything. That's not quite the best wording. What I mean by that is as a character he has nothing
to
him. He works for the plot and nothing more. He's not a person, he's a plot device. Nothing he does is for the sake of his character, it's all just for the heroes to react to. You keep describing Ouja purely in how he affects the Rider war, but not Ouja himself. Nothing on your list really tells me about who he is besides "he's a bad guy" which, sorry, but I kind of expect more from characters who aren't rubber monsters.
Everything you said would be really awesome if it was applied to someone with personality. This isn't even a fault of the actor, since he is pretty good and I shudder to think how even less entertaining he'd be with a bad one. But there's nothing to him. As annoying as "I'm feeling vexed" was, at least it was something that hinted at a disturbed perception, like maybe he was
emotionally
unstable, but wouldn't you know it, it's been dropped. That'd be an interesting character, if he was usually just a calm threatening type that violently lashed out unpredictably. But no, he's completely predictable. Every scene he's in I know exactly how it will play out because he's is a two-step plan and one of the steps is optional.
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Locke
Every episode of Blade I watch I kinda wish I went with Den-O instead.
Me too.
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