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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Anyway, Avengers has it's own flaws and issues. No one is saying it doesn't and no one is denying it. However, you're assuming that, because it shares flaws with other "Popular to hate" movies, it means we have to either put up or shut up, despite films like Bay's Transformers having more glaring and jarring flaws that people loathed, not just "This one part was inconsistent with this other part."

I don't even know what you're talking about in half of this post but I've seen very few people address Avengers long long list of flaws but I have seen many a person rave like it's the greatest film ever made.

There is no put up or shutup, just me here wondering how you can hate one movie, love another when the only differences between the two are in name.

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Originally Posted by Sentai

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That's exactly what Avengers was. Transformers. Just replace Optimus Prime with Captain America. Meanwhile Dark Knight, while long, had an excellent plot. I did not see that twist happening in the end with Bane. And Amazing Spider-Man completely washed away the bad taste Sam Raimi left with his trilogy.

Plot > Explosions

But exactly, I cannot fathom why Transformers is so derided while Avengers gets a free ride, despite doing NOTHING to make it any better than Transformers. In many ways I'd say it was worse because at least Transformers intended to be a big dumb explosionfest, not a film that had been built up over years.