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What Are You Watching? (Movie Edition)
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08-06-2013, 09:53 AM
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Locke
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I'd love to hear the flaws Avengers is so abundantly filled with.
Okay.
No plot or characters. Everything is lifted from the comics, with no new takes, angles, imagination or well anything. Not only does it directly lift but it also does it in such a way that a majority of what is here will mean nothing to people who have never read the comics.
Loki had no motivations and was taken down in a gag.
We never really find out what the Tesseract is, what it does or how it works. Everything in this film works how it's supposed to do in the scene with no sense of coherency or continuity with the tech, magic, myths and rules.
Black Widow was useless and they gave her stupid Spider-Man like agility which only further showed how useless she was. Hawkeye was useless, so they made him evil which was stupid. Captain America does nothing. Thor, despite having the most amount of emotional investment in all this, has the emotional range of frying pan. Maria Hill is added to the cast to get shot at and do nothing. SHIELD are turned into the Red Shirts from Star Trek.
Minus a few interesting in fights, the movie rests on an action sequence with the Putty Patrollers with no real identifiable villain or truly epic final showdown.
The film is written like a bad comicbook balancing all action with lengthy and unnatural exposition.
The film doesn't need Loki and his unclear motivations, the film doesn't need a bloated action sequence straight out of a Michael Bay movie, the bringing together of The Avengers and then their subsequent squabble for power amongst themselves makes for a far more interesting story, much better set pieces and much more emotional involvement.
Ultimately, that is one of the greatest failings with the film for me. There is no tension. The Avengers are the most powerful weapons on the planet, their only threat is themselves, since the movie went for one villain and an army of goons, there is never any sense that the heroes will lose. I mean we all know they won't regardless, but even aside from the heroes never fail thing, even in the movie itself everything that is thrown at the Avengers barely causes a scratch, to the point where it becomes almost a metaplot point. Coulson claims he needed to die, and he does, not just in the movies narrative to bring the team together, but in the movie externally too, to provide tension and emotion, it's the only moment the Avengers stop steamrolling through everything. That is why The Avengers needed more squabbling and less Putty Patrol. In the end however I can't help but feel his death doesn't really work, the first hour and a half is basically a pulpy, pantomime not all that far away from the 1940's Superhero serials..then Coulson dies and it is like we are in an entirely different movie, like his death was slotted in at the end when Whedon realised reading back that his screenplay was actually pretty boring, although there are a few throwaway lines here and there that The Avengers are loose cannons and so on, there is no real sense that they are inexperienced idiots, throwing their weight around without thinking of the wider picture leading to Coulson's death which brings it all into focus which would have worked, it just feels like, as I said 'Wow this is boring, let's kill a beloved character!' with the last hour meandering around seemingly unsure of what to do with itself, so explosions!
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