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Originally Posted by henshinzero

What about W?

- Can they make Shotaro a Dopant when he loses Phillip?

This is just my opinion, but that honestly sounds awful. Shotaro showed his weakness when he cried when Philip died, but also showed his immense strength when he kept going.

Shotaro's whole character arc, the whole bit about being hard/half-boiled, is that Shotaro initially views emotions as a sign of weakness and tries his hardest to bury them like his hard-boiled and stoic boss whom he idolises. Over time he realises that they're not a detriment or something to be scared of, which is why he cries so much at the end, so to have him break down and become a monster when losing his partner seriously ruins the character.

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And instead of an Eternal movie, how about a movie where there is a dark counterpart of W and is controlling Shotaro's mind as the Joker Dopant and Phillips is forced to become the Fang Dopant to save him.

That sounds even more awful.

That seriously flies in the face of the entire point of Kamen Rider W, and the reason we've never seen a Joker Dopant. Kamen Rider is the symbol of the citie's hope, and Dopants symbolize corruption. Shotaro would never become a Dopant, willingly or forcefully. It would ruin the entire point of his character as Kamen rider, an incorruptable protector. That was the point of Eternal in A to Z, he took that name and twisted it. Having either Shotaro or Philip becoming Dopants would be completely counter-productive. That's why the lost Driver exists. Memories naturally corrupt people, using one without a driver would taint the heroes in ways you can't undo.

Now if, say, they had a movie or something where it turns out not all the T-2's were destroyed and they fought other people transformed into Fang and Joker Dopants, that'd not be a bad idea, especially if Phillip was pulled a little bit forward into the spotlight and they defeated them as FangJoker.

But turning the heroes into monsters, especially to save one or the other, is opposite the entire point of the show.