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SPLIT LIP · 10-19-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ElConvoy

First of all...I didnt quite get that you literally meant the whole henshin sequence from Cyclone Joker to Xtreme Form BUT even then the henshin pretty much was the same as before. Alle the action just was covered up by Xtremes Henshin effect.

No it's not. Philip could not pass out, get scanned while Shotaro transforms, then become Xtreme in literally three frames. W's entire henshin is based aorund him standing still. It's practically impossible for him to henshin on the move.

They completely changed it. No ifs, ands or asses about it.

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On the other Hand you are comparing two distinctly different Henshin styles. Base to Final Form is a completely different concept than a human to base Form henshin and as I mentioned before Gaims setup requires the Fruit to drop and unfold cause there are no other effects to cover it up. The only solution would be that the fruity effects when the Body suit appears cover up the actual unfolding part but still you would have the actual fruit still dropping on the head of the actor.

Your splitting hairs, man. W didn't go base-to-final, he went straight to final form.

If they wanted to, they could not even bother to show his henshin. They could have it happen off screen should the scene require. There's no reason the fruit HAS to show up. Afterall, look how he transformed in his room in the last episode. We just saw a flash of light behind the door. I didn't see any orange. There's no reason he can't just do that.

You seem to have cleverly avoided my Den-O comparrison, which is VERY similar to Gaim. Almost identical in how it happens. The only difference is the armour simply materializes. They often ignored that and just had Den-O appear in full form.

I find it funny that we're debating this since I have numerous examples of henshins that deviate, one even in the show itself, and regardless it's not like either of us disagree in our reponse to the actual problem of the fruit thing being a distracting. (i.e. we don't find it a problem

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10-19-2013, 07:47 PM	#66
SPLIT LIP I'm an agile cat. Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,033	Quote: Originally Posted by ElConvoy First of all...I didnt quite get that you literally meant the whole henshin sequence from Cyclone Joker to Xtreme Form BUT even then the henshin pretty much was the same as before. Alle the action just was covered up by Xtremes Henshin effect. No it's not. Philip could not pass out, get scanned while Shotaro transforms, then become Xtreme in literally three frames. W's entire henshin is based aorund him standing still. It's practically impossible for him to henshin on the move. They completely changed it. No ifs, ands or asses about it. Quote: On the other Hand you are comparing two distinctly different Henshin styles. Base to Final Form is a completely different concept than a human to base Form henshin and as I mentioned before Gaims setup requires the Fruit to drop and unfold cause there are no other effects to cover it up. The only solution would be that the fruity effects when the Body suit appears cover up the actual unfolding part but still you would have the actual fruit still dropping on the head of the actor. Your splitting hairs, man. W didn't go base-to-final, he went straight to final form. If they wanted to, they could not even bother to show his henshin. They could have it happen off screen should the scene require. There's no reason the fruit HAS to show up. Afterall, look how he transformed in his room in the last episode. We just saw a flash of light behind the door. I didn't see any orange. There's no reason he can't just do that. You seem to have cleverly avoided my Den-O comparrison, which is VERY similar to Gaim. Almost identical in how it happens. The only difference is the armour simply materializes. They often ignored that and just had Den-O appear in full form. I find it funny that we're debating this since I have numerous examples of henshins that deviate, one even in the show itself, and regardless it's not like either of us disagree in our reponse to the actual problem of the fruit thing being a distracting. (i.e. we don't find it a problem ) Last edited by SPLIT LIP; 10-19-2013 at 07:52 PM..