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Let's Watch Wednesdays Week 1 Kamen Rider Den-O 1-3 Discussion
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05-29-2014, 09:14 PM
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SPLIT LIP
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Den-O
It's not about those buildings being destroyed and staying that way for years. I feel like you guys are making an inference there. Time in the present and the altered event in the past happen concurrently. When those buildings and such are destroyed in the past it causes them to be destroyed in the present. Because of the paradox of them having no longer existed for whatever period of time has elapsed, the destruction occurs. Time isn't progressing normally in an instance like this so the rules of such progression can't be applied properly.
But how?
When does the show state that? Den-O, much like many a Kamen Rider series, demands you accept a certain fictional aspect, without even the slightest attempt at explaining it. Why and how do those events happen concurrently? What sense does that make? How, logically, does that fit with the narrative and universe presented?
There is no answer. The only reason it existed was so that the main character could witness mass destruction in order to take up the mantle of hero.
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Originally Posted by
GoseiWonder
Same idea as the Golden Disc in Beast Wars right? Blow up a mountain in the past, it immediately looks blown up in the future?
Except I don't believe you're remembering that episode too well.
When Rampage blows up the mountian, the Disk's image goes static, and the
image
of the present is shown without the mountain. It doesn't blow up in the present, it simply ceases to be. Because Rampage blew it up. Because Rampage couldn't shoot Megatron's ego, he had to blast something just as big.
The Disk is from the future, and thus, it is affected by past events. It doesn't show those events, merely shows the remnants four million years later. A tree cut down in the past will become a stump, as time has changed to reflect that action. That's how time travel
should
be done in a show. Basic cause and effect, except the cause is in the past, and the effect is in the future. Even with it's limited visual abilities, the episode managed to somewhat show the future mountain-stump slightly "older" without as visible damage, as erosion (sp? Never had to spell that) and four million years "rounded" it out. It's not a "fresh" crater.
Which of course was the entire turning point of the show, the realization that they posses the ability to alter time. Hell, Megatron nearly destroys the universe by creating a paradox.
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Originally Posted by
algo448
So buildings go kaboom in the past, but the timeline knows the buildings were originally intact, so they don't go kaboom till present day?
I always disliked that kind of time travel.
Well exactly, how does time decide when the "present" is? Is the past not the present for the time traveller?
The thing is, they did go kaboom in the past. They went kaboom
twice.
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