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Kamen Rider Meteor · 08-02-2012, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I don't think you guys quite get it.
The difference between Toku and Western heroes is who we follow.
For example: Can someone tell me the major character moments Shotaro has? Eiji? Tsukasa? Not the major moments of Double, OOO, or Decade, but major points of character growth.

The difference is that with Toku, they're given a set number of episodes. So they tell a story in those episodes. However, the story is almost never relevant to the man behind the mask.

Let's Go Kamen Rider's main point was even this. The person behind the mask doesn't mean anything. It's the mask itself. THAT'S who people remember.
That's fine when you have a story to tell with a set amount of time to tell it.
It's not when the story has to continue.

That's where the appeal is for someone like me. I love seeing my favorite heroes being heroic, but there's a reason why Spider-Man overshot Superman in popularity. It's because the person behind the mask was someone I genuinely wanted to know more of. That's where Toku takes a dip. It sets up interesting characters, but never expands on them beyond snippets here and there (It's the problem I had with Gokaiger, in that Episode 1 Luka/Joe/Marvelous was the same as Episode 51 Luka/Joe/Marvelous, only Gai ever experiencing any form of growth). I don't want mindless action, I want characters.

I see your point and I'm not knocking it at all. I love Peter Parker & Kyle Rayner for the person and not the hero. Im just saying that I've witnessed so many up's and downs with these characters that my switch to Toku has been the biggest breath of fresh air. I needed the "mindless action" after years of the deaths, big events and re-boots. That's the only point I was trying to make. Also as fan of superheroes in general , it's been nice discovering so many new ones. Regardless of how well developed a character is.

I'm currently working on W and Decade. Ryuki is after those on my list. But after that I am leaning towards Kuuga or Black-Black rx. Thoughts please!

08-02-2012, 07:34 AM	#610
Kamen Rider Meteor It's about to get wild! Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Providence, Rhode Island Posts: 1,706	Quote: Originally Posted by Matrixbeast I don't think you guys quite get it. The difference between Toku and Western heroes is who we follow. For example: Can someone tell me the major character moments Shotaro has? Eiji? Tsukasa? Not the major moments of Double, OOO, or Decade, but major points of character growth. The difference is that with Toku, they're given a set number of episodes. So they tell a story in those episodes. However, the story is almost never relevant to the man behind the mask. Let's Go Kamen Rider's main point was even this. The person behind the mask doesn't mean anything. It's the mask itself. THAT'S who people remember. That's fine when you have a story to tell with a set amount of time to tell it. It's not when the story has to continue. That's where the appeal is for someone like me. I love seeing my favorite heroes being heroic, but there's a reason why Spider-Man overshot Superman in popularity. It's because the person behind the mask was someone I genuinely wanted to know more of. That's where Toku takes a dip. It sets up interesting characters, but never expands on them beyond snippets here and there (It's the problem I had with Gokaiger, in that Episode 1 Luka/Joe/Marvelous was the same as Episode 51 Luka/Joe/Marvelous, only Gai ever experiencing any form of growth). I don't want mindless action, I want characters. I see your point and I'm not knocking it at all. I love Peter Parker & Kyle Rayner for the person and not the hero. Im just saying that I've witnessed so many up's and downs with these characters that my switch to Toku has been the biggest breath of fresh air. I needed the "mindless action" after years of the deaths, big events and re-boots. That's the only point I was trying to make. Also as fan of superheroes in general , it's been nice discovering so many new ones. Regardless of how well developed a character is. I'm currently working on W and Decade. Ryuki is after those on my list. But after that I am leaning towards Kuuga or Black-Black rx. Thoughts please! Last edited by Baltan II; 08-03-2012 at 06:57 PM..