[Starscream Gaga]

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Originally Posted by Random

I think Ike is a crap character that doesn't deserve his own slot, but I'm sure there are people out there who like him. Maybe he should have just been a costume, but let's not pretend that clones are stopping other more unique characters from being included.

As for cuts, who? Roy, who was replaced with somebody who brings more diversity and relevancy? Wolf, who was the second clone of a character? Lucas, who's a virtual unknown outside of Japan?

For all the talk of "bias" people are pretty upset that the roster hasn't been 100% created to suit their individual tastes.

OK. I'm going to be really frank here. If you can't see the bias, then you're absolutely, completely, horrifically ignorant or you're in absolute denial. (Maybe you're wearing the ever effective Nintendo fanboy goggles that so many Smash players love?) Or, hopefully, you haven't just looked at the bigger picture.

-Kid Icarus has three representatives. That's more then both DK and Metroid, two far bigger franchises
-Pit got a complete move-set overhaul. The only move he had in Brawl that is still here is the Arrow. It should be noted that every single move Pit had that wasn't directly attributed to KI:U (the game Sakurai developed) has been cut.
-While Pit gets a complete move-set overhaul, Ganondorf is still a Falcon clone
-Kirby, likewise, got new moves. Kirby and Pit are the only two characters that got new moves that weren't from a "transformation" move being cut
-Kirby, Dedede and Pit are the only characters that got new Final Smashes except for Luigi and Lucario that weren't born out of complete necessity.
-Palutena is the only character (except Mii Fighter) to have more then 4 moves. She has twelve. The custom moves of every other character are simply variations of their normal moves (like moves faster or has a slightly different effect)
-Dark Pit is given a completely new Final Smash. Falco still has Landmaster. Dr Mario still has Mario Finale. Sheik still has Light Arrow. Toon Link still has Triforce Slash. Lucina still has Critical Strike. See where this is going?
-Kid Icarus. Sorry. Kid Icarus: Uprising has 6 new items, making it the franchise with by far the most new items in the game. One of these items is a "collect for the ultimate power" item, like the Dragoon. Also from a Sakurai game. In a single game, Kid Icarus now has more item representation then Metroid, DK, Fire Emblem, Mother, F-Zero... In fact Pokemon, Mario and Zelda (by 1 item) are the only franchises with more items. Note that all six new items came from a single game, while the previous three franchises have items spanning from hundreds of games.
-DK, one of Nintendo's biggest franchises right now with games more popular and better received then KI:U could ever hope got exactly ZERO Assist Trophies, ZERO new stages, ZERO newcomers and ZERO items
-Metroid only got slightly better with one new Assist Trophy, no newcomers, one new stage and no new items
-Smash Run is populated by more Kid Icarus: Uprising enemies then any other franchise. 16 Kid Icarus enemies, opposed to next highest, which is Mario (11).

... Do I need to go on?

And "Who"? Are you kidding me?

-Wolf
-Ivysaur
-Squirtle
-Ice Climbers
-Lucas

All cut. Ivysaur, Squirtle and Ice Climbers were even three completely original characters. Not a single character on the roster comes close to their unique ways of playing. I don't shed a tear personally for Lucas and Wolf, but the cuts have been pretty significant.

And no, 100% suited to my taste would have had no cuts, Skull Kid newcomer, Dixie Kong newcomer, Dark Samus newcomer, Ridley newcomer and Bayonetta as a third party newcomer plus an overhauled Ganondorf and tweaked move-sets and Final Smashes on many other characters (ironically neither Kirby nor Pit needed tweaks). Either way, even people who are 100% content with the roster should see where there's a problem.