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09-03-2015, 06:33 PM
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SPLIT LIP
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Originally Posted by
SanoBaron
you keep saying its just for shock value yet it had relevance to the plot.
The deaths had relevance to the plot.
The manner of deaths did not. The amount of deaths, and the flippant nature towards them, did not.
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the overlord didn't want humans to become something he couldn't control. he didn't want them to move forward, but once it starts, you can't stop it, so he has them killed. how is that just for shock value?
Because at least one person dies per episode, usually in a graphically disturbing manner like being stuffed into a tree or something.
At no point that I can recall does Agito ever actually
save
anyone. He never prevents any killings.
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and the only time actual "innocent bystanders" get killed is when one of the unknowns gets their antanae cut off, and they just start killing random people.
Are you trying to imply all the victims, the woud-be Agito, weren't innocent? Because they did not choose to be Agito or know they were going to be. To them, they were normal people, save that one telekentic woman who was a manipulator. (yet ironically the only person Agito showed remourse over)
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like, the most messed up death to me was Hase, because we see him break down and try to break from his inves form, and in the end he gets offed like an animal.
And remember how Kouta reacted to it?
You know what Agito
never did?
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Yuya was already gone, and Sid could have died any other way besides crushed.
Yuuya was already gone, but it was still tragic that neither he nor Kouta knew what they were doing, and Sid's death was brutal because he deserved it. He wasn't some harmless one-ep bystander, he was an evil, sick man and his brutal death was every bit deserved.
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and name one scene where Shoichi just stands around while an unknown attacks.
Every single episode,
because it takes
at least
one death to get him to get off his ass and become Agito.
Plus, seriously? He's turning into an armoured bug-God and figthing monsters, and he's not the least bit curious as to why? He literally does not mention it for like ten episodes. For the longest time I assumed it was subconcious and he wasn't aware he could transform, but he
was.
It was stupid.
Quote:
I mean just because he isn't on the constant hunt for them doesn't mean he can't live his life outside of fighting unknown.
Kinda actually. I mean, seriously? there's hardly any connection between normal life and Agito life. When and Unknown shows up Shouichi just lives and, without saying two words, (besides "henshin") goes Agito, kills it, then goes back to normal life without even acknowledging it. It's like two different shows. Seriously you're trying to tell me that's a normal human reaction to just go on without so much as a moment's thought?
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hell, he's willing to sacrifice himself for the final battle.
And nowhere else.
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and Gills is a homage to Amazon, so of course he has to scream, because going "GIGIGIIIIIII!" would be too silly in the tone of Agito.
Then maybe they shouldn't have homaged Amazon if it was going to make him annoying and insufferable.
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Originally Posted by
SanoBaron
:/ I really don't see how it was badly paced.
I must be missing something.
Nothing happens for like ten episodes. And even after that, there'll be like episodes at a time of nothing of substance taking place. And no, monster of the week battles don't count. I mean like changes, forwarding of stories, explanations.
Example:
G3's entire subplot revolves around trying to find out who Agito is. It is not until the late 40's that he finally finds out. If he even does, I may be misremembering.
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Originally Posted by
TheTakoTank
Either some crazy stuff happens in the next couple episodes (I'm on 41) or I completely missed this.
Without spoiling things.... it's a really lackluster explanation.
If you don't care about spoilers:
It's God. God did it. Everything that happened? it was just God. Good ol' all-powerful, don't-need-to-explain-him-'cuz-he's-God-ly God. Agito are humans evolved (THAT's a whole 'nother can of beans. You can't do divine creator and evolution stories at the same time, they literally are opposites) past god's control, so he sends the Unknown who are like angels to kill humans. That's it. That's the entire show and all it's facets.
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