[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

I think the Ace and Raioh are pretty brilliant. But all of the other machines are pretty awful individually. They're better as individuals than they are combined though. None of the combinations look anywhere near cohesive or coherent to me. EXCEPT the Raioh combos. Those actually look really fantastic to me, especially compared to the awful combos that came before it.

Except Rabbit's cockpit when you remove the Headder. That just looks ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Brainchild

I think the absolute greatest victory of this line is that the combined forms look cohesive, but not coherent. It seems that those are the two words coming up most often, and people are taking them to mean the same thing. No, Gobuster Oh is not coherent, he looks like a complete mess of robot parts, but for that, he looks cohesive, or convolutedly combined together. Other mechs, like Gokai Oh, look coherent, with each distinct part showing, while they don't look cohesive at all, but rather, like a couple of bricks laid next to each other.
I think the biggest divide here is caused by the fact that different people want different things from combining robots. Gobuster Oh looks pretty odd as a display piece, again, being an amalgamation of random bits and pieces, but he looks like a really cool toy robot for that same reason. I like my robots to look like they've actually combined, as opposed to something traditional. That's my problem with Gokai Oh, Gosei Great, and whatever else. In vehicle mode, the individual components look like arms and legs with wheels, while in combined mode, the components look like animals or vehicles with hands and feet. The individual components of the Gobusters have taken an enormous step forward, by introducing tons of functionality for the individual components, and combined modes that look, well, combined, and I really love the line for that. It's a shame that not everyone could be satisfied by it.
And I still don't get how people can say Rai Oh looks better than Gorisaki in any mode. That's just ridiculous.

You didn't read Den's post? He said it wasn't Cohesive or Coherient. And he's right. As Awesome as Ace and Rai are, that's how bad the rest look when they combine. Great Go-Bust-Oh being the absolute worst offender.

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Originally Posted by Den-O

No it isn't ridiculous. The RaihOh is a functional multi-mode figure. Gorisaki is a truck and then he turns into a hollow set of legs with a head attached. He is easily the worst individual figure of the line. Even the Rabbit copter is better than that if for nothing else than how well it transitions from copter to rabbit.

And while everything that makes up the GobusterOh and Great Gobuster may look like they go together how is that an excuse for them looking awful? How does looking like a big pile of odd parts thrown together make it a good toy robot? I'm having trouble understanding how for that reason you can like the GobusterOh but then others use it as an argument against the RaiOh?

There is no excuse. How long does Toei have to come out with the next idea? A Year? Maybe longer? Somewhere during that process, you're telling me, no one took a step back and said "Yea... that looks horrible."?