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Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga

Don't hold your breath for Yoshino and Lalamon to actually do anything. You'll end up suffocating.

I think part of what made Tamers seem like it waited a long time to introduce the Perfects was the fact that they used Evolution, especially early on, in general very sparingly. I think its noteworthy that while Growmon evolved into MegaloGrowmon in Episode 14, a mere 6 episodes after we saw Growmon for the first time, that was actually the first time we saw Growmon since his first appearance. Growmon was absent for 5 whole episodes and the episode after his first appearance he didn't even fight! Then after that we didn't see MegaloGrowmon again for another 6 episodes. Likewise Dukemon was missing for a good 9 episodes after his first appearance. Plus, like in Adventure, the existence of a new evolution didn't mean that you never saw the old evolutions again. Growmon didn't stop appearing once MegaloGrowmon appeared, in fact he only evolved in dire situations. Similarly in Adventure, MetalGreymon wasn't completely forgotten about once WarGreymon hit the scene.

The same can not be said for Savers. GeoGreymon appeared in (I'm fairly confident on this) every single episode since episode one and once RiseGreymon appears you never see just GeoGreymon again. The evolution sequences in Tamers are designed to follow each other straight away with no cutaway so from the first time GeoGreymon evolves Agumon goes straight into RiseGreymon, skipping GeoGreymon. Heck, in the dub they even called it "Warp Digivolve" because GeoGreymon is never seen again.

Hm. Well, that's a shame, but at least they're consistent.

And huh, man, I've completely forgotten how Tamers went . I did remember Growmon didn't show up until episode 8, but all the details start getting foggy (the fact that the last time I saw it around 3 years ago I binged most of it in like 2 days probably doesn't help keep things distinct). I should really rewatch it one of these days.

And...dang. GeoGreymon actually was absent from the episode where Touma celebrates Masaru's sister's birthday, but other than that yeah, dude's everywhere. If they really just keep skipping evolutions that's kind of lame though...

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Originally Posted by WhiteRanger

Ok I hear mix thing about saver one had I watched cause alot of people said Japanese dub was better and story was some what better and dub sucked what are you guys thoughts on it.

I wouldn't be able to say. Data Squad was the one series I never saw at all (I think, I may have seen one episode while channel surfing at one point but I'm not sure) and until last week I hadn't touched Savers either. Hard to say.

It'd be hard to mess up Yoshino's voice though. As for script changes and stuff, I dunno.

Not that my experience with dubs would really be relevant anyway...I'm from Mexico, so while I watched the Adventures and Tamers and parts of Frontier dubbed, they were in Spanish. Which are from what little I know better dubs than the US got anyway, but I don't really know. We at least got translated theme songs instead of new ones, so that's one point in our favor...