[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

Yeah, but is yours any better? I don't mean to be rude but I fail to see how the changes Ryuki made to the formula can't be credited TO Ryuki just because they were the result of outside forces or evolutions of existing things. Of course they were. Most things are. Kamen Rider has always gone with the times because of course it does, that's how it stays successful and relevant.

Yes. Yes they are.
Kamen Rider has always been evolving and changing. It should be without question that we'd hit the point that we'd have a villainous Kamen Rider. Just because Ryuki was the first to have it doesn't make it that momentous. It goes without saying that, considering the basic idea of Kamen Rider is that it's heroes from justice birthed from evil, that eventually we'd hit a point where we get a character that starts and actually stays evil.

As an aside, no, I'm not staunchly placing my feet in the ground for this counterargument. All I meant is that evil riders was an inevitability. Ryuki having the first one is a big deal, but the franchise wouldn't be that different if Ryuki didn't.