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I like Zyuohger better than Ninninger?
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10-03-2016, 12:13 AM
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Matrixbeast
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Fish Sandwich
This is what I'm getting at though. Yamato helps the others out with their problems sometimes too, and it's not like
every
story in Kyoryuger involved Daigo solving the problem. I haven't seen the show in a couple years but just off the top of my head I remember a late-show episode I really liked all about Ian and Ucchi being forced into a scenario where they have to overcome their clashing personalities and work together to defeat the bad guys (so basically every Sentai episode ever) and I can't even remember what Daigo did in it. I remember people always saying Souji drew the short straw with character development too but I don't remember Torin
giving his super cool sword to
Daigo
after teaching him his super cool sword move. For that matter, nobody but Souji himself came up with the idea to copy said move in the first place.
And what does it matter if he
could
use Carnival to win all the fights himself? Zyuoh Whale blew
a chunk of the Moon
off a couple weeks ago. What's important is that he ISN'T doing it alone.
It just always seemed to me like for every example of Daigo Sentai Kingranger you can bring up, there's at least one counter-example of why the show was about everybody. Sentai
always
puts the Red one a bit more front and center (literally) than the other guys and I feel people exaggerate the extent to which Kyoryuger does A LOT. It's definitely a bit more heavy on the Red shilling than usual but nowhere near the levels I see it get played up as.
This is a bit of agree and disagreement from me, because you brought up the only character in the series I felt actually received both a proper character arc and experienced quite a bit of growth, Souji.
But the problem Kyoryuger had is 2 pronged. King was always at the forefront, both solving any problem he has without help, as well as constantly helping others solve their own, and the characterization the other Kyoryugers get being rather lacking.
As individual characters, Nossan, Ian, and Souji are all a lot more engaging, but King soaks up screen time, and their character arcs get very little time (Nossan) or just...Don't exist (Ian), and when their problems come up, King is able to think of a solution no one else could (Except maybe Nossan's sister).
Torin was also pretty cool, but once he transformed, he fell down a spiral, too, losing relevancy beyond "Chaos's bro" around the end.
In Zyuohger's case, Yamato isn't a problem solver. Misao doesn't really respond to him when in a rut anymore, needing Leo, Sela, or Amu to get him out of it, he can't really fix the Zyuohger's problem of returning because it's completely out of his hands, most of their day to day, individual issues tend to be solved by whichever member is relevant (And it rarely seems to be Yamato), and unlike King not needing help with his own troubles, he's too afraid to let anyone else in to know.
In a 1 for 1 comparison, Yamato and King are alike, but their execution is why people aren't up in a tizzy over Yamato. He's not explicitly stated as perfect, each member contributes to the team both in and out fights (Hell, The World can legit lift buildings with a fishing pole, but no one is complaining about how strong he is because of his crippling self loathing and low self esteem
)
Unless the last quarter of Zyuoh turns into Zyuoh Whale feat. The Zyuohgers, I doubt the power he has will be used for anything more than a glorified finishing attack.
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