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Originally Posted by TF RyuShin

To be frank, I somewhat understand a bit of Fish's point of view from every of his posts regarding about Ghost. The more I see it, the more I realize that Ghost had more than it had. I understand about Switchblade and Kiwami's rage for Ghost. But, first of all, the whole Ghost problems are summed up in one question: 'What are the criteria of a good Kamen Rider series?'

Really, that topic is the most crucial single problem of Ghost. For many people, they would expect a lot of good twists and story escalation with fluid story-telling that is crucial for a good series. But in my opinion, Ghost IS NOT like that! I meant it in a good way, though. Ghost is actually a good series in its own way. Ghost doesn't appeal the viewers with its storyline or the plot twists here and there. Ghost's main attractions are its messages and the developments on the characters. Don't expect Ghost to be a series like Gaim or Ex-Aid who has heavy plot. Ghost might have a lighter and softer plot but it really hits as being a good series with full of messages.

Let's be honest, from all of the Neo-Heisei Riders or even the Heisei Riders, I don't think we have so many series with full of messages about life and death like Ghost. Most of the series relies on their twists and plot. While Ghost relies on its messages and the optimistic point of view. Basically, if you want to watch Ghost, you need to realize that it's NOT series that will hook you up but you can learn so many things about life, compassion, courage and other things from this series. This is why Ghost is actually a good series for kids. I know a lot of grown ups are complaining about the childish plot but it's what makes Ghost is really charming toward the kids. I bet that the kids enjoy Ghost a lot more than, say Gaim.

I might end up rambling and rant non-stop like Fish if this continues, but what I said is basically sums up what Fish's previous posts. I don't say that Ghost doesn't have flaws. Remember, Ghost was pretty strong during Alain's arc but weakens during Mugen arc. I'm a writer so I understand where the problem is. After Mugen debuts, the writer decides not to escalate the story and just use VoW again. Let's be honest, this is one of the major problems for Ghost. It FAILED to escalate its own plot and instead, reducing the pacing. Why must we need to focus for the VoW for Takeru to get the emotion attacks? It would have been better if they focus more on Onari, that other Onari's apprentice, and heck, give Kanon more exposition. It would have been good if Takeru had learned those emotion attacks from his friends rather than from random people. They might even introduce the Demia Project a lot faster this way. Take a look on OOO and Drive. Once their Final Forms debut, the series' pacing is increased and they knew it's not the time to joke and wander around again. Even if they use VoW, the plot is moving even much faster than the episode.

Well, then I have done rambling. I'm not saying that people who hates Ghost to like it. I just hope that I could open those people's mind about Ghost's true nature, just like what Fish said.

On the other side, have anyone watched Specter Rebirth movie yet? I have watched it but I want other people's reaction first before I tell my own opinions.

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

Honestly the more I look back on Ghost the more I see the holes. The show lost a lot of its direction later on and spent a lot of time alternatively spinning its wheels and introducing plot points it didn't seem to know what to do with. There's still a lot to like (in my opinion, of course), but it's pretty much the weakest final stretch a Rider show has ever had.

That being said, I stand by the first half~ish as being genuinely quite good, and while it becomes easy to see where the hate comes from looking at the big picture I still find it nuts anybody disliked the show right away. After a somewhat uneven premiere, Ghost immediately started moving with a ton of purpose. Basically nothing was filler, the pacing of what Plot the show did have was very strong, never stagnating, and characterization on the whole was rock solid, with a ton of growth for most of the cast. I once said Ex-Aid isn't any better than Ghost, and while I've been proven horribly, horribly wrong in the months since, Ghost still came out of the gate stronger as far as I'm concerned.

But that's just my two cents on it~

Have fun with Ex-Aid, though! I think you'll find it has so many fans for good reason.

These two posts are some of the best spoken opinions/thoughts on Ghost I've read. Very well put together and honestly I agree with a lot of what both of you guys said.

I wanted to elaborate that while I thought Ghost was subpar, that's not to denounce anyone who enjoyed it or can see more good in it than I do. You guys added a lot of how I felt about the show. Especially about the first half-ish vs the finale arc.

Kind of a weird thing to post but I always feel like shining a light on the well spoken and not condescending thoughts on any forum of discussion. Like Kuuga would say. Good job! *thumbs up* ^-^