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Originally Posted by Byg42

Just to add to the Ghost discussion, Post-Mugen is definitely the part when Ghost pacing starts to fall upon itself. It perphaps spent a bit too much time with its Votw side stories and while the show never forgot its ongoing plot, it ended creating so much build up and set up for them that the actual execution of those plot points leave a lot to be desired, the biggest case being the Demia Project. With that said though, I never actually minded the Votw stories.I liked the way they tried to integrate them with the ongoing plot which made them not feel totally pointless even though it did end up artificially lengthening it.

In fact, I think Ghost had some really good Votw stories. Most were paced well, I liked the messages and themes they presented, and I liked how they started to integrate them with the eyecons post-Boost, something which was greatly needed due to how hastily they were introduced in the first 10 episodes. Another thing I think Ghost did well was its set up. The show build up a lot of its events and was constantly teasing you with new questions and new information. Its part of the reason why I think that while Ex-Aid may have the overall better plot, Ghost I think was better at trying to keep you interested in its plot as I wanted to know what new stories were going to happen or what lingering questions were to get answered. While this did results in a number of its plot points falling flat due to how much build up they had, again look at the Demia Project, when the show executed them well, it really executed them well. The biggest example was probably Alain's redemption arc, which in opinion is Chase's redemption arc done right.

The pacing of the overall plot however was a bit all over the place. The first 10 or so episodes was definitely too fast due to how quickly they introduced the eyecons and how they just skipped weeks in between episode in order to rush through the first 99 days. Post-Mugen had the opposite problem where the pacing was too slow, dragging out some of its plot points far longer than they needed to. The middle of the show was where the pacing was at its best, building its plot at a reasonable pace and ending them where they needed to.

I kinda agree and disagree with some of the points there. I agree that post-Mugen arc felt so drag and slow. They even wasted the big build up for the Demia Project. I don't mind for an overarching build up, actually. It just the way Ghost executed isn't worthy for the long build up. I never said that Ghost's VotW cases aren't good. I just said that it would have been better if Ghost had just focused for its main characters. Really, many people complained about Makoto and Kanon's importance to the story and they would have been integrated more if they had gotten rid of those VotW case for the last arc.

I really agree that Ghost was really strong during its Alain arc. Remember the time where people all hail for Ghost because of the badass Necrom or the great development of Alain. The pacing is great too and actually it's pretty compelling if you ask me. It shows that Ghost CAN be a good series but the writer lost the direction. I already said that there might be some meddling during the production. Though, I disagree that first arc of Ghost is too fast. The pacing felt so fast mainly because they need to advertise the toy. Really, if Ghost only had a main 4 or 5 forms, instead of 7 or 8 forms, you might realize that Ghost's pacing aren't that really bad in the first place. Still, I think that they should have made Boost's debut a bit later than that.

Ghost's middle arc might will get you hooked up to watch it even more. But, Ex-Aid is by far more compelling and I felt more hooked up for the series. Both series' middle arc usually ended in a cliffhanger but I think Ex-Aid handles it better in several episodes. Let's just see, ever since a particular bike boy made a huge impact to the series, Ex-Aid has been so attractive and I felt more excited with how they will handle the plot. Compared to Gaim, let's say, Ex-Aid's plot is much fluid and it's pretty unpredictable. For Gaim, it's pretty unfortunate that because the series was written by Uro, many people has already predicted several plots and how the ending. Let's see, who already know how Ex-Aid will end?

Also, while Alain is pretty similar to Chase, I don't really like to compare their development as a character. For Alain, his change of side was at the same with his development. For Chase, his development was way after he changed side. While Chase's change of heart was pretty awkward for some people, I think it's the only excuse for them to do it. Chase is a mechanical lifeform with implanted program. His change of side was because of said program and not because of a development. Alain is the otherwise. He can feel emotion but his mental instability and doubt really clouded his judgement. Because of that, Alain needed development first before the change of heart while Chase is the otherwise.