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Kamen Rider Ex-Aid Episode 45- "Endless Game!" FINALE Discussion
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09-02-2017, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
IXRollOutIX
Cronus
was
the one who killed Gamedeus the first time. Given the show's internal "video game logic" it's not too far a stretch to believe he simply looted those weapons from the kill. Have we been told that's how it works? No. But we haven't been told he
can't
do that either. Masamune's implied before that Cronus has many more abilities at his disposal than we've seen, and obviously he's ended up with these weapons somehow, so fill in the blanks. Personally I think that's acceptable enough.
I GUESS that makes sense....but still, it'd have been alot better if they explained that. (And I'd advise you not argue using the "but we weren't told he
can't
either" argument, that's burden of proof fallacy.)
Quote:
No, no, no. He's talking about when Para-DX stalled Super GameCronus
before
they split. He used Mighty Doctors then to suppress him. Remember that Masamune is still a Bugster. He became one when he fused himself with Gamedeus and remains one even after they've separated. Mighty Doctors' antivirus clearly affects all Bugsters, (it vaporized Parado and Poppy; Dan and Kiriya were only safe because their Lv0 abilities counteracted it) so the effect from before Masamune and Gamedeus split carried over and his abilities were weakened going into the finale battle.
I guess, but that still doesn't help justify the MASSIVE difference in power, to where frickin LV.2s CAN BEAT HIM....From a narrative standpoint, I just don't see that as a satisfying way of beating our Final Boss, when the explanation for how was so vaguely described. Again, they had NO PROBLEM with this in the previous Episode explaining the reasoning behind the usage of the Lv.1s, so I don't see why they couldn't properly give a reasonable explanation for using the Lv.2s here....
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Originally Posted by
Pineapple924
Actually that's not true, in the earlier episodes Bugsters have shown that they can revive by themselves given a fair amount of time.
In episode 1 Salty was Critical Striked by Ex-Aid, but was never shown to have been absorbed into the Bugvisor/Buggle Driver 1. And yet he then came back in episode 11, by just cultivating in the Christmas VotW who was infected by his virus at some earlier point.
The same goes for Aranbura, he got Critcal Finished by Brave in episode 2, and naturally came back in episode 13 after manifesting from the VotW.
Yes, it was never shown, but that was because that's before Genm was revealed to be Kuroto. Of course they wouldn't show it, cuz that'd blow the secret of who's behind it all.
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I think the big problem is the difference in perspective between audience and character. Basically, the CR have taken the stance that;
Rather than thinking that the people defeated in Chronicle are dead and therefore should be left resting in piece. The CR consider them as "game" dead, and are being trapped in a death-like state, like a coma or complete head-to-toe paralysis. So as Doctors they are morally obligated to help them.
Regardless, if this does go through, this is bad from a narrative perspective, because it undoes the effects on the people that have been affected by it. I said this before, but Hiiro's huge character development is one of the biggest things that'll suffer from this, because now, he doesn't have to "get over" Saki's death & grow stronger in spite of it, because Saki will be back anyway.
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EDIT: TheGloryXros, I really hope this doesn't come off as me and others ganging up on you for your different view on the ending, I just felt that some of your points of discontent could be answered by the way I saw things.
No problem, I'm not offended. I like debating(not because of conflict, but because it's a way of learning for both sides), and besides, I won't lie, you guys do have SOME points. But yea, overall I just don't think this was a "GOOD" ending, I think it was OK at best.
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