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Kamen Rider Die watches Masked Rider Ryuki
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DreadBringer
Sorry, what do you mean by this?
I get the feeling that Ren's not the most careful, considered combatant. I think if Yui wasn't there as an ally, he'd probably be an ex-Rider by now.
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DreadBringer
That feel when....your supposedly most morally upstanding character....gets called out by their misbehaving (though like how I elaborate from my post from yesterday, I also think Yui is also the most morally upright too in the series), like Kiriya lecturing Emu in Ex-Aid. So you also think Shinji's an asshole here for accusing Ren, well I'm kinda someone who will do what Shinji does if someone's that much asshole to me like Ren.
I just, I'm not seeing how Shinji's supposed to seem protective here. He doesn't know these people
at all
. For him to show up and say that Yui's not safe with Ren around, it strikes me as a
massive
overstep. It's in character, it's the same thing he did in the premiere with the truck driver, but it's
zero percent charming or heroic
here. It's... I feel like they're going for a thing where he lets his confidence get the best of him, but it feels so much grosser when he's doing it to a pair of friends (or more?) rather than a monster or another Rider. It's too much.
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DreadBringer
I will also bring out our discussion earlier from the Ghost watch thread which also corresponds well to this moment (as why Yui thinks Shinji is more untrustworthy). Ren's goal is more immediate and personal, while Shinji's seemed less so. With Ren, it's clear what he was fighting for and the lengths he'd go to, there was a clarity to his actions and an energy to the performance that really popped in those early days. Shinji was nice for the sake of being nice, but didn't have a clear agenda, which wasn't as easy to understand.
I mean, kind-of? I think the show is making some interesting moves of not totally nailing down who Shinji is as a Rider. I like him figuring it out in real-time. If he's still clinging to a vague I Want To Protect People motto in episode 40, we've got a problem. For now, I think it's an okay choice for the show to make.
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DreadBringer
Also speaking of hearing someone else's name, how did you miss the RON! RON! RON! moment?!! Another case of Shinji Knows Best About Everything, assumes what he hears is right and going along with it.
See above! I loved that part. There wasn't really a great way to talk about it organically, but, yes, so fun.
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