[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

Sorry! I have been reading everything, even if I don't reply to everything.

I want to discuss not only the outer part of the episode (like a short opinion about some new characters), but the inner parts too, the trivias that are easily overlooked. I want not only you, but probably also others to read and know those inner parts of those episodes too, the easily overlooked minor informations. I want to share a review of Ryuki by someone else that follows that principle later, I think that's a masterpiece of review, anything someone misses or misunderstand like about Ryuki, that person may catch, but can only be done when your series here is done.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

I don't know if I'd describe Goro that way? There're limits, but I don't think for a second that Goro would choose Shinji's mental well-being/possible monster devourment over Kitaoka's need to eliminate his Rider competition. That seems like an easy choice for Goro. Plus, like, tricking Shinji was hilarious.

Goro did the right thing when Kitaoka did the wrong thing like to Yukari by comforting her, and then even "babysitting" her until Kitaoka sees that he's being a super dick, not super lawyer. He also later does things against his wish a bit like bringing Yukari again (you cannot bring child to his house) and not immediately coming home when he asks to (forcing Kitaoka to join Goro/Yukari at table). And later Goro stands up to Kitaoka for something less morally questionable than this one.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

I mean, her having untapped monster powers is a pretty easy guess

Oh wait...forgot that she's not normal previously where she can see and sense monsters before, the latter which came handy here where someone else's plan involve direct monster attacks.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

The Yui and Shinji thing, it's about how they see Ren versus how he wants them to see him. Ren wants everyone to know that he's a killer, that he's going to do whatever it takes, brood brood brood MOTORCYCLE. But, like, Shinji and Yui don't really buy that? Yui thinks he's better than that, and Shinji wants to see him as someone who just needs a friend to show them a better way. I think they want to treat him as Not A Killer, so he'll stop thinking of himself as A Killer.

For Knight's Final Vent, I think you're right, in that I don't think Ren really wanted to kill Quarter. He's just not that guy, which is what a lot of this last story was about to me.

Oh about what they think of Ren. He knows deep inside that he's still humane, he's softer than he thinks and cannot kill someone, and that will prevent him from winning the Rider War (which involves killing all other Riders). Knowing that he puts a psychopathic killer act to try detaching the humane side of him until he truly becomes like that. Especially more if it involves about another Rider like Shinji, that if Ren become friends with him he cannot lose and kill him. He may be nice to Yui from the start, if only that using her (monster sense and relation with Shiro) may help him win the Rider War. And Tezuka also doesn't buy that either and also wants to treat him as a not killer, obviously he's a Rider too like Shinji and thus Ren gives the killer vibe to him, but he tries to force himself to open up his true nature, in an attempt to stop the Rider War. A̶n̶d̶ ̶c̶o̶i̶n̶c̶i̶d̶e̶n̶t̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶t̶h̶o̶s̶e̶ ̶3̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶m̶i̶n̶d̶s̶e̶t̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶R̶e̶n̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶w̶'̶s̶ ̶k̶i̶n̶d̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶u̶r̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶c̶h̶a̶r̶a̶c̶t̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶ ̶w̶a̶n̶t̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶i̶g̶h̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶s̶t̶o̶p̶.̶

If you talk about Ren holding back, so that somehow he can hold himself in his Final Vent attack so that the tip of his Sword Vent won't impale his opponent? (Keep in mind his Final Vent is him wrapping himself in Darkwing who transforms into a drill, and using his Sword Vent as a tip to pry them open).

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

There's shades to that, though. I think some of it is personal offense (HOW DARE THEY, etc.) and some of it is that his scheme blew up in his face, but I think there's more going on. You could read more into it, if you want. I think there's an element of them all teaming up against him that hurts him, that he doesn't really like to see people be kind, since that means (by default) he's being unkind. I don't think Kitaoka sees himself as some sort of manipulative asshole. He just thinks of himself as playing the game better than these naive dopes. When cunning people like Reiko and In It To Win It types like Ren are telling him he screwed up, I think that's going to hurt.

Like my paragraph above, something I wanna see in the discussion is like this; looking deeper into a seemingly minor moment and making sure other people to know about these topics too. I think he does see himself as an asshole where he gloats to Shinji about his abilities and how he frees an evildoer when letting him ride his car in ep. 7 and him mocking Ren in ep. 10 where he thinks his purpose is naive while gloating about caring only for yourself (a common scumbag trait) and be stronger because of that. Also Ren outright calls him an asshole multiple times and he brushes it off, also pointing out him being asshole is none of Ren's business. Like you say for Ren viewing himself as a killer before, Kitaoka also adopts that mindset being a Rider (do whatever it takes, etc.), to an even nastier degree that Ren is sick of him. For the photo though, it's simply Kitaoka not taking rejection well, he's is truly in love with Reiko btw.