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Kamen Rider Die watches Masked Rider Ryuki
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03-28-2020, 01:40 AM
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DreadBringer
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Originally Posted by
Kamen Rider Die
We’ll start, as per usual, with the Tezuka/Ren stuff.
Ren and Tezuka's dialogue can be summed up as"Are you a
tsundere
Ren?"
"It's not like I'm trying to befriend and help him...b-baka!". And now Tezuka got punched. If trying to humanize Ren is this risky, I can't imagine how will you fare for humanizing other worse Riders... And damn even violating personal space by again "stalking" Ren in the hospital to know that he fights for Eri.
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Which somehow sits just fine beside a story about a teenage hacker making the staff of Ore Journal his servants, and Ryuki being held at bay by a teenage bully with a lighter. with the absurdity of a college student (who looks like he’s about 14).
Well, the threat is worse than humiliation, it's death for Shinji (Dragreder card), and it's virus for ORE Journal computers, also death (of business) to them. Shibaura is 21 btw, he's merely younger than other Riders, but he's NOT that young. N̶o̶w̶ ̶I̶ ̶f̶e̶e̶l̶ ̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶c̶h̶a̶n̶n̶e̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶A̶u̶n̶t̶i̶e̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶ ̶c̶l̶a̶i̶m̶s̶ ̶Y̶u̶i̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶1̶3̶.̶And let's also talk about how Shibaura gets his comeuppance here in form of one of his underestimated slave Shimada, don't underestimate her weirdness (including how she came to Atori and her dramatic preparation for making the virus), she IS the computer staff of ORE for a reason who eventually stops the non-monster threat they investigate earlier. And she collapsed for merely...typing a program fast (resembling a computer's BSOD)? Where Yui is being overly concerned that time, do you really believe that just typing really fast can send you into near death situation? Also poor lil girl who Yui babysits (what earns you a privilege to get that specific treatment at Atori like headpats?), that Shimada moment won't be safe for a child to watch!
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Originally Posted by
Kamen Rider Die
(The bit where Shibaura keeps threatening to burn up the Dragreder card, tough call on
that one
. On the one hand, funny.
So funny, every single time.
Shinji’s so
impotent
in this one, more or less useless to every plot, and his rage is really entertaining. But, man, why doesn’t he just punch that kid in the face and take back his card? You could argue Shinji doesn’t because maybe Ore would get hurt by it, but
I don’t think Ren would care a lick about that
. Minor quibble, I laughed a bunch, it’s hilarious to see a superhero menaced by a child in an ill-fitting suit.)
I think the reason of why Shinji didn't try to act to Shibaura is that, he risks that this moment will happen (replace ORE card with Dragreder card).
Meaning putting himself in a tug-of-war with Shibaura of Dragreder and risking tearing the card, which would lead to his death. And for bolded one even with Ren claiming Shibaura just to burn his card, he throws his sword to the card to (make Tezuka) retrieve the card. Now you really can't deny it Ren! You are a tsundere like Tezuka claims! For "superhero menaced by a child in an ill-fitting suit" though, both Shinji and Shibaura are in their human forms means Shinji isn't a superhero (and Gai in Rider form would mean he's a supervillain, on equal grounds with Ryuki), moreover we learned that a Rider will revert into Blank Form when they lose their contract card, where you know Blank Form is very weak and impotent.
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Kamen Rider Die
It’s the Rider stuff that comes out the best this episode, though.
I’m not sure if More Riders = Better Episode is a strictly true formula, but it feels like a reliable one for this show. It’s… it makes all of the fighting
so much more interesting
to me, to have all of the fighters feel this three-dimensional, to have something like Fight Or Die (not to be confused with Fighter Die, my screen name on the MMA boards) feel this nuanced, this personal.
Also, I totally don’t think Ren’s going to kill Shibaura. I don’t think he’s that guy. I guess I’ll find out next!
Lol that's obviously usual for Toku because Toku's main stars are Riders and monsters, any unusual stuff. How about Sudo and (especially) Kitaoka there you left them out from the list for their take on the war? And for Shinji, something that comes into realization for the war, as displayed when he "accidentally" killed Zolda/Goro was that he also needs to save the Riders themselves too, not only the innocents. And most importantly (you never talked about Shinji and Tezuka's interaction), Tezuka co-operates with Shinji in this department.
Tezuka also unlike Shinji in ep. 6 to Scissors vs Knight, did try to break out Knight and Gai's fight, but dunno why I think it's hilarious he just doing like to separate unruly kids by telling them to stop and putting himself in middle of them, which would make it even worse for him that he got "double-teamed" by Knight and Gai to put himself out of their way. Get yourself a better equipment lol like using your weapon or Advent for a basically 2v1! And Knight again utilizes his weapons well (after using his rapier to free himself of Scissors' choke, realizing he has other weapon), he dual wields them here to eventually defeat Gai. Raia (at this time) must be stunned that his prediction this time went 180 degrees, with Knight defeating Gai and seemingly about to finish him.
Tezuka is low-key Kiriya's expy of Ex-Aid, being the one to retrieve main Rider's power after being stolen (Dragreder card from Gai, Mighty Action X gashat from Snipe), being the most heroic Rider after main character (at least before Poppy comes for Ex-Aid), ultimately ending up on the same page as the hero after a misunderstanding at first. Can we also talk about poor Shinji who gets backhanded by Ren when he tried to stop the fight?
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Originally Posted by
Kamen Rider Die
Yeah, I think Shibaura comes off worse than, say,
an actual murderer like Scissors
in that he's so goddamn smug.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fredbob392
Shibaura's such an ass, I almost hate him more than any of the more threating dark Riders in the series. He's so obnoxious.
Anyone named Gai is coincidentally hate-able I suppose, be it from Ryuki, or from Zero-One. And Shibaura is also a murderer btw with his death games. The victims from previous episode may be some video game addict assholes, but the death games are solely made by him (not the whole Matrix), and he plans to spread it country-wide here. And for Die didn't you say you like how Gai's scanner is in his shoulder? Also his shoulder can be folded so it won't restrict your movements.
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