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03-29-2020, 10:19 AM
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DreadBringer
And this is the last thing that Ren wants....his weakness (of not being a killer) being known to others
especially
Shinji, and him wanting to accompany him even more. So much that he's even more childish here by throwing a tantrum. And now he's even worse in keeping people away from him, even
Yui
isn't safe from this. I assume you mean dooming himself and Eri in a way that he wouldn't be able to win the Rider War and save her?
I mean, yeah, there's probably an element of Ren not wanting help, but I think he's way too emotionally shattered in this episode to care what Shinji thinks of him. He can't lie to himself anymore, he's not going to be able to kill other Riders, which means he's failed Eri. Maybe equally bad, he knows that other Riders are going to have to kill him, and if he can't kill them he's
definitely
not going to survive. Every lie he's told him himself gets refuted in this episode, and his whole sense of self is shattered. He can't be the man to save Eri, and he's probably going to get killed for his weakness. I don't know that I'd call the anger Ren exhibits from realizing that he's doomed himself and someone he loves a "tantrum", but, y'know, Ren can sometimes be a demonstrative guy.
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
And 2 episodes earlier you have Yui in the same boat as Reiko (ORE Journal part-timer)... I think the main difference is that Yui already knows about Riders and Mirror stuffs and the tragedies it caused and seeks to get in touch about the one instigating it, her brother Shiro, as her way (being a non-fighter unlike Shinji and Tezuka) to stop the conflict, while Reiko is like regular citizen, knowing nothing about them, except there are people disappearing and wants to know what causes the disappearences, to have it published as a news publication, thus alerting people (likely death of reflective surface, covering everything in newspapers).
Partially, for me, it's about economy of character usage. Like, Reiko's sort-of not doing anything in this episode, and Yui's
kind-of hopeless
at investigating (I guess being pitied is a viable form of leverage over others?), so putting the two of them together gives Reiko something to do and Yui someone to bounce off of. And, I don't know, I don't think Reiko'd have that tough of a time getting up to speed on the Rider/Mirror stuff? Seems like she could handle it.
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DreadBringer
Dude Shinji, you got the one Rider who agrees, supports, and is willing to cooperate with you, why would you still pick a fight with him?? You are in a risk of losing your golden chance!
Shinji has this...
abrasiveness
? I think his confidence, his decisiveness,
his vigor
, it has this way of sometimes pushing people away. It's a character flaw, but not a storytelling flaw, if that makes any sense. I like that even-tempered Tezuka can get briefly furious at some way that Shinji's been...
less than diplomatic.
It's not cheap drama to me, it's a real way that even heroes can quarrel, can disagree, can make their point badly. It's good writing.
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
And now Tezuka also, lives in Atori, all 3 Riders (can't) sleeping together (wow). Yui wasn't aggravated again by this (especially after witnessing that Shinji and Tezuka are screwed-up in their own ways after Ren)? It seems that he merely sleeps there but he goes to his usual place at noon, I wonder what's his house like normally before? Shinji was kicked out in his apartment. Tezuka can't be broke despite his fortune-telling job, he wears a tuxedo and his bike is a damn Honda CB400 SF.
100% could not figure out why Tezuka slept over. At first I'm like, are they hiding out from Shibaura? No, they all just go about their lives the next day. Was Tezuka shadowing Ren, acting as his, like, sponsor? No, he's out fortune-telling on his own the next day. Super weird choice to have Tezuka spend the night and never explain why. My head-canon is that Tezuka was mildly pissed at Shinji's I Don't Believe In Fate stance, so Tezuka just raced upstairs, got in Shinji's bed, and shouted I SLEEP HERE TONIGHT IT'S FATE I GOT A VISION YOU SLEEP ON THE FLOOR and then pretended to be asleep until Shinji gave up.
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DreadBringer
Also didn't you notice that Raia used Copy Vent against Knight before? He seems to prefer picking other Rider's weapons with it instead of using his own weapon for some reason.
Nope! Didn't notice! Or, more accurately,
did
notice, didn't have context for why that was thematically appropriate yet, and forgot about it.
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