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Kamen Rider Die watches Masked Rider Ryuki
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04-03-2020, 06:36 PM
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Kamen Rider Die
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
I meant false hope as like using the wish for Shiro's personal gain instead for the winner. OK, before I explained above (just to convince that Shiro or going after him is no way less-important) or recent episodes, did you think that Shiro actually has various powers, or you just view him as someone who simply gives the card Decks, watches Riders and urges them to TATAKAE (like the wish power comes from somewhere but he just tells informations about the wish)?
Everything about Mirror Ghost Who Can't Be Hit And Hands Out Magical Card Decks says to me that dude has special powers. If he's just, like, a messenger, some lieutenant or mouthpiece, I never really considered it. I guess it's possible, though.
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
Oh, yes all true for Mirror World's environment system. It's more than just being a horrific danger for humans (Riders mitigate that but still). And yeah for bolded one for meta reason is a sensible way to pad out the series. Though now I wonder, why Riders only fight each other in Mirror World (Monsters live in Mirror World so fighting them there is expected)? Is that because you can only summon weapons/monsters in Mirror World? (I think you may be able to call monsters from Mirror World to real world to aid you) Or possibly incapacitate other Riders so they can't escape from Mirror World when too weak and will disintegrate? Unless like that, Riders seemingly are a bit suicidal to choose to fight each other in a hazardous environment.
Yeah, this is another one where I just sort-of assumed they had to fight in Mirror World. I can't recall if we've seen anyone do Rider stuff in the real world. They usually just jump into a reflective surface and blow the environment to pieces. I just figured their powers only worked there.
Which, in a way, I really like it for how it contains the collateral damage and keeps the Rider Battles secret. There's a hidden war going on, just parallel to our world. Plus, you can mostly keep the cops out of it and just let Rider Justice take care of things, so, hooray!
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DreadBringer
Or probably just him having a faith in Goro and his skills?
I mean, yeah, maybe! That's a pretty good guess for what Kitaoka might be thinking. It's... he might be giving Goro
way too much credit
, if that's the case, though. Goro's great, but he's still just a man. Asakura's a violent lunatic AND a Kamen Rider. I can't imagine Kitaoka thinking Goro's going to get the better of him, considering he already got kidnapped.
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
Definitely! It's not even that rare for Rider shows and the like to use flimsy excuses to get a villain just short of killing the hero (the perennial "tossed 'em in a river", for example), so for Ryuki to build that narrative shortcut right into the world, it makes it much more palatable to the audience. You're told upfront this will be happening, so it doesn't come off as cheap, even though when you think about it, it's not any less lazy in the long-term.
So, I like the time limit, I like that there's a story justification for fights ending... but it's still
pretty cheap
. The time limit is of a narratively convenient length, so almost every time a villain/antagonist has a hero on the ropes OH NO TIME'S UP gosh I guess we'll have to try this again some other time. We're not even halfway through the series and they've hit that button
kind-of a lot
.
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
Gosh, I wish he did that. Unlike the main villains, most of those poor Masquerade Dopants were never shown to be fine after exploding. I think Double and Accel combined probably mercilessly slaughtered like at least 50 of those guys throughout the series.
It's funny to me, to think of Accel being even-tempered and empathetic, mostly because the text
100% does not support that view
. If anything, the gap between HEN and SHIN is probably him getting so excited about detonating a monster that he forgot to say the whole word.
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