[Kamen Rider Die]

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Probably some differences in subs, but TV-Nihon does that.


And isn't Asakura's motivation pretty clear? He simply wants to feed all Venosnaker, Evildiver, and Metalgelas at once to survive, and Buzzstingers, which is a pack of 3 monsters is the way to feed all of them simultaneously, as feeding only one of them will have him get eaten by the other 2.

Yeah, those are the subs I'm watching. It's just... I don't know if I believe Asakura? He says she was bait, and it seems reasonable (Ren's probably screaming I KNEW IT in his brain), but it's just his word that that's what happened. It certainly wouldn't be out of character for him to lie, and if did help a little girl he probably wouldn't want to cop to it. Doesn't do a lot for his brand, you know?

To me, it feels like some gray area. Not saying you're wrong, but I don't think there's a definitive answer to be had on this one.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Well yeah I guess I got carried away there, but I'm probably just a bit exasperated of some people, ironically like what he said there about Ryuki, constantly shitting on those morals, and using various excuses to the point of nitpicking to constantly shit on characters like Shinji based on how they're morally good, while constantly worshipping morally grey and black traits.

Hey, speaking of gray areas, let's talk about keeping discourse civil.

(Thanks to Kurona for bringing this up. If anyone feels like things are getting too heated and/or unconstructive, please don't be shy about citing it!)

One of my feelings about discussing art is that you can't really change anyone's mind. If someone doesn't enjoy a piece of art, all of the explanations and clarifications in the world aren't going to make them like it. Similarly, if someone loves a piece of art, telling them all of the reasons why it's bad is at best unhelpful, and at worse, kind-of a jerky thing to do. The best we can all do in discussing art is explaining our perspective, and respecting other people's perspectives.

It's fun to talk about these shows. It's fun to say what you liked, what you didn't like, and get into debates about why something did or didn't work. But when you start getting upset at the way someone else views art, just keep in mind that they feel as strongly about this franchise as you do, even when you see things differently. It's okay to disagree, and it's fun to debate, but let's please all stay friendly about it. We're all Kamen Rider fans, and we're allowed to get different things out of Kamen Rider shows.