[DreadBringer]

Where do you get that Shinji's motive is to find Shiro, maybe fight Shiro, destroy the Mirror World, something? Also do you think that watching over Eri is also another "have to try" moment like Shinji here or Ren fighting Odin? Considering that Ren's friends are against him winning the war and it seems that the only way to cure her is the wish (may inevitably die otherwise).

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

To me, if you're in a to-the-death battle royale where the rules are Fight Or Die, and you challenge someone to a fight? You demand they fight you? You kind-of lose the ability to claim self-defense. As viewers, we should be shocked that Ren went that far, expecting him to either change his mind or die. But he did the thing he said he'd do, and no amount of post-murder regret changes his culpability.

Fair enough for you lose self-defense claim if you initiate the fight. Though just wanted to point out that Ren has picked fights and sent death threats several times before this fight too. If not self-defense, I probably should reword it as; Ren should be sent to the extreme brink of death to make him actually kill, where the only other choice is his own death.

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Originally Posted by Kurona

Yeah, like, when watching Ryuki; I felt it was just so well-constructed and paced that it was something I couldn't help but keep on watching. A lot of Rider shows especially due to being ~50 episodes I often lose motivation for constantly watching and I have to take breaks, but Ryuki was one of those series that I just had to keep watching

Ironically (like Ryuki world itself) Ryuki is the series that isn't for you despite it being addicting.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

I'm watching this thing and talking about it episode by episode. I'm going to say stuff that gets clarified later in the show, and I'm going to guess stuff that might be hilariously wrong. If I'm wrong because of something that gets revealed later, please don't tell me! Just let me be wrong! If I make some joke about Shinji being vegan, but there's a bit in a later episode where he kills, cooks and eats Ren, don't correct me, please. Let me have that surprise. You can have the knowledge that I'm going to be proven wrong later by the TV show, which is hopefully a delightful consolation prize.

Most of my concern, in approaching these shows, is dealing with the text of the show as aired by that point. There's definitely going to be stuff from later in the show that recontextualizes elements of the story, or outright retcons things. When I'm talking about it, I kind-of don't care yet about what hasn't happened, because people watching the show as it aired didn't have that knowledge. If it's been in the current episode, or any previous episode, it's a fact and it's valid. If it's something from a later episode, or some piece of supporting media, I'd rather not know about it.

This is just my stance but probably unknowingly clashes with your view of watching the series and if it does sorry for that. I think that the belt being used by one after another isn't a spoiler because it's just shown and happened in a Ryuki material (that was released at its time, albeit written by secondary writer). And I have no way to clarify other than the main series, but it was meant to just telling that the gimmick mechanic in 13 Riders is consistent as what's established in series, not touching any important Ryuki event (I was also at dilemma to do this, and dunno if other people using Advent Deck like Shinji did is much more important to you). I think I can't let an unjust complaint about a series being constantly lit up inside and eventually ruins an enjoyment about the series to the point of being too late (or just forgotten) for answers, so I was finding a way to stop this while also not actually spoiling important events. And retcons are like #1 no-no for various series.