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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider 555
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05-09-2020, 10:17 AM
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Kamen Rider Die
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Originally Posted by
Sunred
Fun fact while the Greek alphabet Phi is the main motif, Faiz's hidden motif is a shark as evident on his mouthguard and antennas.
Oh! Very cool! I can sort-of see it now, in how the antenna are windswept a bit, giving the impression of fins. Neat! I wonder why they went with a shark, though?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
See, the reason I did notice is because I had to have this whole conversation with myself about that thread. I figured going with Masked Rider would match your Kuuga thread better, and to be frank I prefer having it translated, but I realized it wouldn't match up with me inevitably calling the franchise as a whole Kamen Rider a million times, so I gave up on that real quick. For what it's worth, the way you were doing it
is
how Bandai and Toei still handle the names to this day.
Yeah, I've got the Rider Kicks SHF reissues, and the side of the Faiz box is a big ol' MASKED RIDER FAIZ, while Ex-Aid's was KAMEN RIDER EX-AID. I think in the end, there isn't really an English-speaking fan who'd naturally call any part of the franchise Masked Rider. (Well, the Japanese-language parts, anyway.) We'd all say Kamen Rider. So, yeah, these are all called Kamen Rider now.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
Making fun of TV-N's Faiz subs for saying
nekojita
when you've been saying "Henshin" for like five threads of this? Should I link
Takumi's image song
? Because it sounds an awful lot like a Double Standard going on here.
Oh, man,
no way
. Henshin is a word like Kamen, where it means something in Japanese but is also a specific word for Riders. Kamen Riders don't just
transform
, they
Henshin
.
Also, I wasn't really making fun of the Nekojita thing. (I really like that there's a Japanese word for that kind of behavior?) It's mostly that someone else used it as a warning sign for The Bad Subs, so I wanted to call it out. I appreciated that they left a complex word untranslated, because I've got no idea how you'd translate such a specific insult.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
No, but seriously, I've been dreading you getting to this show for exactly this reason. This episode has one of the first errors I remember really getting under my skin. It's when Mari is trying to find out why Takumi is traveling, so she goes "can I ask you something?" Takumi's response to that, if you believe TV-Nihon, was "It'll need an answer, right?" I'm still trying to figure out what that even means. The actual line is a blunt, avoidant "Depends on the question", which is a way more Takumi thing to say, and also makes sense.
I don't know, that might seem pretty minor? Like, it's not an entire plot point being completely mangled or anything, but it's also more than just a clunky sentence. Faiz is a character-driven show with lots of snappy dialogue, and that error to me represents how pretty much all that nuance just gets sucked right out by the subs and replaced with a lot of nothing. You get the broad beats of the story without the little things that really make it click together. I think the reason the premiere came out okay is because a lot of that stuff is non-verbal there, like Takumi being introduced tapping on a menu instead of saying what he wants, or Mari scarfing down a meal in like five seconds.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kurona
Oh boy. Maybe I WILL find something to talk about here if this keeps up!
Because, hot take... I LIKE this. I genuinely really like this line as it's translated. To me it gets across the same meaning as "depends on the question", but way more sarcastic; way more snarky. Like Takumi wants as little to do with a conversation as possible that he's making giving an answer sound like a huge burden. And, heck, it's a lot more original and sticks in my mind more.
This sub sure is
something,
but this is one of those times I didn't mind.
Yeah, I also didn't mind that line. I like the idea of Takumi being okay with her asking a question, but resenting her expecting an answer. Like, talk all you want, just don't make this
a conversation
.
The two lines of clunky dialogue in this one where I could not figure out what they were trying to say were:
This is from Live Action Hatsune Miku's Orphnoch Orientation. I think she's trying to say that Yuuji needs to do more than just kill humans, like maybe fight a Kamen Rider, but it's phrased like he needs to form a Contract with a Monster. "You haven't made an enemy with your strength." God, what a garbled mess.
This is after the I Hate Responsibility exchange. I think he's saying something like "I don't want to be tied down," but maybe not?
The rest of it was stuff that was just a little clunkier than I'd like. Those two were like speed bumps, where I had to the pause the episode after reading them.
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