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Fish Sandwich rewatches Kamen Rider Kuuga
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05-20-2020, 12:42 PM
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DreadBringer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
Ichijou and Yuusuke start this one out discussing how much the Grongi have been increasing in power, and Yuusuke says he's determined to become even stronger to stop them.
I forgot to realize, that, I like the music here. Also Yusuke remarks that he has to become stronger, and what they do here is a physical exercise. Does Yusuke's human physical capabilities also stack up to Kuuga where if his physical capabilities are stronger, he's also stronger as Kuuga? And wtf man, Yusuke's a superhuman, but he's the one tripping?!
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
The meeting
begins
pretty seriously. Dim lighting and blurry projector photos of monsters.
So Yusuke finally properly met Matsukura, complete with business cards, completing the cops meetout. I want to see Matsukura more than just thanking Yusuke but the meeting has to immediately start. Daguva unwittingly provides the humanity the means to win against the Grongi by themselves, that his Grongi victim's corpses didn't explode and stay in one piece, making them able for Tsubaki to use for autopsy. The doctor's speciality is eventually the one which turned the humans around against Grongi in the series and providing the cops an actual solution, examining the opponent's body turns out to be vital for the defeat, if only because their human origin and still possessing a sliver of human weakness. I guess Yusuke, a human that becomes a practically heroic Grongi (Kuuga) also played a part in the examination? (Him gaining the superhuman physical body and regeneration, and Grongi's revealed to have the same, which gave an idea of them being originally human-like just like Yusuke) I must say, besides the series' theme being grounded, the science capability, while still significantly better than what real life can accomplish, is also grounded right? They can only create a slightly more effective bullets before with the smokes, and even now, something new they created are still quite mundane stuff, not flashy one, but it can deal specifically with an organ part of a humane body. Science in other series, coming from otherwise completely normal humans, can create a much more insane devices, even also another Rider wholly. Even if the cops've finally found the solution, I think I would like to see the cops trying to use a stronger weapon before rather than just relying on bullets and guns, such as missiles, grenades, etc.?
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
This is Go-Gadoru-Ba, who's clearly marked as another rival sort of character to Kuuga, given his rhinoceros beetle motif.
Gadoru is practically, the climax boss of Kuuga. The Grongi that targeted the police directly, defeated Kuuga with ease, and came closest to killing Ichijou, and took 3 episodes to defeat. Kuuga only beats him by tapping into more of the golden power and running the risk of turning into a second Daguva. He's also the foil to Baruba. Both are lieutenants to Daguva, and he's exceedingly masculine to Baruba's feminine, but as loyal to Daguva as she is and attempts to challenge him fairly, unlike Gooma. He's also the physical muscle to her more delicate scheming. He truly is the evil counterpart to Kuuga with him having all of Kuuga's powers and even form changes just like Yusuke. The forms being Grapple Form (Rising Mighty), Quick Form (Rising Dragon), Shooting Form (Rising Pegasus), Herculean Form (Rising Titan), and Shocker Form (loses to Amazing Mighty).
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Fish Sandwich
At any rate, it's more than obvious at this point how deeply Yuusuke cares about other people, and that's why he's asked Sakurako to see if she can find him any hints as to how to become stronger, like a new form for Kuuga.
Can you list known Yusuke's skills with their numbers as much as you can after finishing the rewatch? I wish there would be a supplementary material that touches on this. OK, one of the questions I've asked before is finally answered here, he can only keep Rising for 30s. So, at first Tsubaki jokes about using defibrillator to make Yusuke gain Rising, but then it's revealed that it's from Yusuke's willpower, but now this brings up the defibrillator again. So which one actually creates Rising form? The defibrillator, willpower, or both? Sakurako's faith to Yusuke still has limits like here. It's actually just usual Yusuke overdoing it,
just like
him turning into Kuuga from the very beginning. You saw how terrified Sakurako was for him, at that beginning, without Jean getting involved so, this isn't so much of Jean's fault as it's Sakurako's concern?
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
Kuuga's efforts manage to draw Gadoru's attention away from the police, but not much more. His old finishing moves are thoroughly useless at this point, and Gadoru is all too happy to show him how it's really done.
Yeah, this is the kind of fight choreography I like, using everything you have at once. Though Kuuga gets over more quickly with each of those right, instantly switching to his other forms to get a shot, and also only had Mighty used in Rising, I guess Yusuke means maintaining 30s for Rising only for 1 base form before and not like, each base form can get Rising for 30s each in 1 henshin?
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
This is another excellent fight when it comes to building the threat of the antagonist.
About building the threat.... I don't know and probably there's some wrongs in my takes but, weren't Kuuga taking the
finisher
kick from Grongi and just KOed (albeit hospitalized) quite underwhelming, if compared to Kuuga doing the same to the other Grongis where they are just quickly destroyed? Or is it superior feat when compared to other Grongis who had Kuuga on their ropes?
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
In the meantime, Ichijou is tracking down Dorudo's signal to the sports arena he's currently hanging out at with the rose-tattooed woman and Gadoru.
A reveal of Gegeru rule, and broken abacus is a rule breaking, an excuse to give more threats and increase the bodycounts? Oh yeah and also Grongi infighting.
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
Yuusuke isn't dead!
The show doesn't waste any time pretending this isn't the case, either. The very first shot of this episode is dedicated to showing you Yuusuke's very much beating heart after Tsubaki fixed him up, mostly offscreen. Even during the cliffhanger last time, it was treated like more of a moderate inconvenience than anything. In fact, Tsubaki even suggests that Yuusuke somehow
forced his own heart to stop
, just so Tsubaki would hit him with some more of that sweet, sweet electricity. Which seems like a weirdly chessmaster kind of move for Yuusuke, so I assume Tsubaki means this was some sort of subconscious thing. Or he just doesn't know what he's talking about. Take your pick, I guess, but I'm pretty sure it's the former. Tsubaki is generally really good at his job, after all.
Yusuke does not Godai... uh, go die. FTFY
So you mean that Yusuke still has some degree of consciousness in this stae to stop his own heart? And what will happen if Tsubaki hits him with the electricity while his heart still beats that Yusuke probably stops his heart for this?
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
Jean's really intent on getting Enokida to realize she isn't the problem. Her life may be hectic and hard to manage, but in his opinion, all Enokida needs to do is what she can. As long as she can stay smiling, and keep pushing herself to work hard for the benefit of all mankind the way she
does
, then that'll lead to Sayuru smiling too in the end. Jean's impassioned defense completely reinvigorates Enokida, who goes to grab a certain something before getting a ride home from Jean.
So the conclusion is.... either it's from Yusuke, or from Jean, personal experience is a reliable help to others. But what if the person doesn't have the personal experience that is related to other character's problems? Sayuru probably didn't say it directly but, did he refuse to take Enokida's hand when they go for a walk and confides to his grandma?
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
Yuusuke is feeling pretty invigorated himself, after waking up in the hospital. Tsubaki's surprised when Yuusuke knows right away he had the defibrillator busted out on him again (Tsubaki not expecting that confirming he didn't mean Yuusuke literally willed himself to death on purpose, I guess), but Yuusuke's just so full of energy he knows it couldn't have been anything else. He's pretty confident that with all the energy he's loaded with now, he should be able to sustain the golden power for a lot longer, which will be a big help, since Yuusuke wants to work hard for the sake of everyone else who's working hard. The scene at Pole Pole this time kind of blends this drama with the Enokida drama by having Minori talk about how their father, when he was alive, was
also
never around, a natural result of being a war photographer. There aren't any deep revelations here, but I like how the show caught how Yuusuke's existing backstory could kind of fit in here thematically, with Minori pointing out how they'd always get letters from him that would always end with him wishing for the day when everyone can smile. It's obvious, especially from Minori's tone, that both of them really looked up to their dad, despite barely seeing him, and that reinforces what Jean is saying, as well as how deeply baked into Yuusuke the idea of protecting other people's happiness is.
So even if the defibrillator is a one time use, the effects on it is permanent on Yusuke's body, like now he can use Rising indefinitely? Minori is the one to recount about her father, I wonder what will Yusuke tell regarding him.
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
Sakurai and Sugita even manage to outright
kill
Dorudo, winning the police their first ever proper victory against a Grongi. It took them 46 episodes to do it, but
they did it
, no Rider belts required!
Actually better than Kuuga now? Also, speaking of Grongis, I know you put money on Gadoru, but was Grongi classified between tribes where each tribe level is stronger than the previous ones? Would that mean Dorudo's supposed to be on higher level than Gadoru in Ra tribe (same as Baruba, though tbf Gadoru is leader of Go)? He dies while Gadoru was faking.
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
Yuusuke arrives to finish up the job, transforming straight to Rising Mighty, able to freely use its power exactly like he was hoping for.
If he can use Rising for likely indefinite time now, how long can he use Amazing Mighty? And this is the form Gadoru has no counter to, making him defeated. And about the kick, it creates a skyscraper-tall pillar of flame. It's understandable that they want to make it less damaging to the environment, but other than it being deadlier as a stronger form, was Amazing Mighty's kick as destructive or more than Rising Mighty's? Rising Mighty's explosion covered like good part of the
city
.
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
She can't keep them, and the solution isn't to stop working to go be a "real" mother. It's just to be straight with Sayuru. To tell him that with the Unidentified Lifeforms around, she
has
to work harder than ever, and while there's no getting around that, she's every bit as dedicated to being his mother.
Also the key part is missing, someone should point out that, with Grongis around, people are in danger including Sayuru, so it should be said that they should make the world safer first before any of the quality times. It's better for a delayed quality time rather than being killed by a rampaging monster. t should be said when her mother talks about why she's more concerned about Grongis rather than Sayuru. And you sure really not seen in tokus other than Kuuga, including other Kamen Riders?
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