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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider 555
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Deepsea
I know the discussion about the theme song has passed but I stumbled across this and need to share it.
That was delightful! Thanks!
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
This is also can be about when someone feels that you're being unfair or misunderstanding something, and complaining about it, which would likely about either the bad things (dunno if you mean just something bad in general or something occassionally bad in a generally good things?) or boring things, and wants to correct/point out, how about that? Also I want to hear about what you think about I'm talking for Saya being a character type.
I mean, sure? People can bring up whatever they want to about Faiz!
For Saya, I must've missed that. Can you remind me?
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DreadBringer
Wasn't it also still steal the belt, but Delta's? And there's one more recurring move that you didn't mention there, looking for another 1 member.
Sure, both of those things are what kicks off the story for Lucky Clover this time, but it spends a lot more time getting into the character relationships.
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DreadBringer
I wonder if you only mention Mari's state here only because the Ryusei School involved were the mattered ones - Kusaka and Sawada. Because for your comment of wanting Mari and Kusaka to listen to Takumi and leave these turds... you confirmed here that "These are people she grew up with, cares for deeply. This is her family, and they are literally killing each other in front of her" and even if the other Ryusei School is nowhere as important to those 2, they are to in-universe characters, she would side with them more compared to Takumi. Also btw wdym for the version of Mari and Kusaka we never saw?
So, all of these questions have the same answer.
When the Ryusei School alumni were first introduced, my problem was that while Mari was the way in for that story, she didn't really develop emotionally because of it. We knew that this was a part of her past, but that information lacked emotional context. She reacted as though these were next door neighbors she fell out of touch with, not pseudo-siblings. Worse, the only emotional connection we saw with the Ryusei School was her as a kid, which is "the version we never really saw" in the sense that the kid versions are not active characters changing and growing on a weekly basis. Seeing her be happy or sad as a kid is largely irrelevant to the modern-day storytelling. (Unless they're doing a Faiz Babiez spin-off?)
But! The
whole point
of that last Ryusei episode was that this was crushing Mari. The previous connection to Sawada wasn't trivia, it was the lynchpin for her decision-making. By letting Mari's emotional stakes be
the stakes for the story
, it made the Ryusei stuff work. Prior to doing that, I
absolutely
wanted her to abandon them. But the show ended up making it work!
So, I stand by all of those previous statements.
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DreadBringer
I think this was my point for "making the series all 100% like that is out of the people's capabilities, even making every single recurring cast equally as deep and completed is known as an enormous task, let alone the victims and one-time people", that it's too high of an expectations, not enough room for 100% everyone.
To me, the problem isn't the high level of quality, it's the high
quantity
. They've got twelve-ish main characters! That's too many! The answer isn't to make five of them more boring, it's to cut characters.
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