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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider 555
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07-05-2020, 04:11 PM
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I don't know that I completely caught that? Sorry!
In general, folks are going to want different things out of stories they follow. A trait that I hate might be one they love, and vice versa. Like, I think Takumi's early standoffishness is both funny
and
worth exploring, but for other people it might be a reason to quit watching. It's art It's all very subjective!
No, np you did caught the other parts, just that there's something missed that I still want to know. Probably something like Takumi is actually the accepted one like you said here, not the turning off one. I know folks want different things, but regarding non-toxic flaws, unlike what Takumi has there, I want a fair treatment for that too. For early standoffishness, it's regarded as relatable and realistic, but the non-toxic flaws is instead more likely to be hated also because it's relatable. I want fair treatment; let it be known that entertaning qualities aren't inherent toxic qualities, or that being toxic doesn't mean automatically being interesting like the hate sink type of character. I think I don't want for assholes to be glorified all the time, also for people to judge merely from the type of something, but be objective and more like, judging things by how actually good/bad those something that type, not just declaring something is good/bad just because it's the prefered type/not. (ex: "this character covers the dark part well/that one is too edgy", instead of "I don't like this character simply because he's not the dark or gritty type!").
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Yeah, I think that's a fair line to draw? It's not a version of humor I've really seen on Kamen Rider, to my knowledge. Most humor is of the gentle-ribbing type (think Sento and Banjou in Build), but sometimes a show will push it farther. You might get a villain whose cruelty is so unreal that it becomes ludicrous, but that's maybe not intentional so much as it's a failing in storytelling. I don't think Kamen Rider is a franchise that wants to tell stories where truly bad people make fun of truly good people?
"wants to tell stories where truly bad people make fun of truly good people", obviously KR doesn't want to tell that, but I may be wrong but as you begin with Ex-Aid (not saying those are bad ofc), it can seem like this (not only Ex-Aid, but other similar genre shows); the Riders smack talking each other, where Emu seems to be on his ropes most of the times regarding that - enough to be the fandom's punching bag in my country. And dunno if this is a too-serious take, but something fears me is that, an actual verbal abuse that is dismissed as jokes (at the beginning of Kusaka's appearence, you give me the vibe of treating Takumi and Kusaka as this), because of the word they utter is not that different from the gentle-ribbing type (well, Vitrolic Best Buds; part of those dynamics are acting like worst enemies on the outside), letting the terrible people get away with their acts because they're dismissed as joking, or simply because it's funny like you said for Takumi above (for those not directed to you, so can freely laugh at others' misfortune and keeping those people around). For villain whose cruelty is so unreal and ludicrous, actually this can be a reason to forgive them more, because their actions are more abstract, being less unsettling and tragic.
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Is it Kamen Rider Taiga or Tiger (Ryuki)
Impaler or Emperor (Ryuki) or maybe Imperer?
W or Double?
Hell, I've got a tattoo that accidentally says Dei-Kei-Do instead of Di-Kei-Do (as it was later explained to me at least).
The moral is, Kamen Rider is complicated folks.
That's Japanese language for you. Foreign words (like English names/words) are written in katakana for Japanese, and the katakana version of the foreign words follow the pronounciation for that foreign words, not the spelling, but the katakana version of that foreign words chooses which are the closest provided by the words:
Tiger is not a Japanese word, and its pronounciation is /ˈtīɡər/. From the provided katakana letters, "Ta"(タ) and "i"(イ) are chosen for the "tī" part, and "Ga" (ガ) is chosen for the "ɡər" part. But because the katakana words are decided by the pronounciation and what's provided, there are conflicting translations from katakana to English due to some different pronounciation in foreign using the same katakana letter.
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