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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Hibiki
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10-14-2020, 07:49 PM
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GrandComplete
Nah your fine take things ay your own pace you shouldn't apologize for priortizing your life over a simple hobby like this. It's totally understanable to take a break once awhile especially if your job is harder than usual.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by
Sh Ranger
Maybe the kids are also a reflection of how Kasumi thinks of Ibuki. Like how Ibuki needs Kasumi to pick out his clothes. But Ibuki is able to have a civilized discussion with the kids and reveals that those kids are actually pretty reasonable and they learn something from the experience thanks to his mentoring skills. It's the same thing Midori said to Hibiki, that he's a cool Oni but an okay guy. These guys look way more competent when they're in their element and seeing Ibuki in his element is what allows Kasumi to appreciate him and see him as more of an adult, which parallels Shounen's desire to quickly prove himself as an adult but without the experience of Ibuki.
Something else I forgot to mention about the fight scene with Oonamazu. Sound travels faster underwater! Ibuki may not have been the best Oni for the job but had a really good tactical advantage here and the setup with shooting the stomach full of stones. At that point, his job was probably easier than Hibiki's.
Great points! I feel like Ibuki is someone who tries not to be judgemental. Like, it's that Kamen Rider thing where deciding to protect humanity means you protect
all of humanity
. There's no picking and choosing, and doing that means you naturally see the best in everyone. It's the difference between Kasumi's role (support Oni) and Ibuki's job (save people). She's used to having to deal with corralling people and working with systems, so she's more apt to be curt to get people to take a threat seriously. Ibuki feels more connected to the people he's saving, since he's risking his life to do it, so he's able to work with them to ensure their safety.
I don't know if that just made sense!
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Sh Ranger
I didn't want to put a downer on my favorite arc but now would probably be a good opportunity to mention that I didn't get the point of Mochida's envy. It happened in one scene only to be resolved easily in the next scene she appeared in. Where is the conflict here? Maybe this sounds ironic after Faiz but people are too good at communication in this show! Maybe I'm just spoiled for love triangles by Faiz's love hexagon! Hibiki has a lot of great qualities but this probably isn't one of them.
I mean, I don't really like it, but I get it. Hitomi is a teenage girl who has a Completely Obvious To Everyone But Asumu crush on Asumu. She's always probably had him all to herself, and now he's going out of his way to help Akira. She feels threatened, but that feeling goes away when she's able to think that Asumu is only
really
helping Hibiki.
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Sh Ranger
Now that I think about, I don't really get what Mochida brings to the show? She doesn't know about the Oni and whatever purpose she may have served at the start seems to have been taken over by Akira as the female lead to Shounen's protagonist role. She's like Mizuki in Amazons S1, before she joined 4C.
I think the Asumu stuff has enough weight and independence that she's still valuable. If the show dips too far into Only Oni territory, though, yeah, tough to give her much to do.
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DreadBringer
Kasumi remembers him as that likely because of how he
acts
, which means she seems to refuse to acknowledge him, it's likely her issue tbh.
Yeah, I don't think this story was trying to make it seem like they both had to come to an understanding. It's pretty much just Kasumi needing to see Ibuki as a man and an Oni.
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DreadBringer
And the end celebration, that happens because of by coincidental everyone gathers?
It's totally impromptu, which is one of the reasons it's so great. They're just all together, and it
becomes
a party. I love that.
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DreadBringer
I know it's about context, but I still want to hear the explanations ofc, because many times I found people sometimes giving double standard treatment to medias; like blindly hating on something, while giving free pass on similar element that existed in series they like. Well, that means Hitomi's only that
relatively to Asumu
... And ok I got it for what you said regarding Asumu (though "doofus" seems derogatory to me), he's definitely socially awkward (and I had some part of this as well), and well, this is something unfortunately people often use as insult fuel, especially if they're males (this quite runs on toxic masculinity tbh, ignoring the fact that males are humans too). For the last question, it's about the "There’s a part of me that regrets that we’re in a place where two smart, capable women could squander a burgeoning friendship on (and I love him) a doofus like Asumu." sentence, and I ask why the regret.
Sure, that's all fair. Doofus was maybe a little unkind, but it's difficult to see why both Akira and Hitomi might be interested in him at this point. He doesn't seem like that much of a catch!
For the regret, it's just that The Two Ladies Fight Over A Not-That-Great Dude is such a weird, frustrating trope that I didn't like to see the edges of it blooming in this episode. They didn't really go there, which is great, but just setting it up made me a little disappointed.
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