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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Hibiki
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Kamen Rider Die
Great points! I feel like Ibuki is someone who tries not to be judgemental. Like, it's that Kamen Rider thing where deciding to protect humanity means you protect
all of humanity
. There's no picking and choosing, and doing that means you naturally see the best in everyone. It's the difference between Kasumi's role (support Oni) and Ibuki's job (save people). She's used to having to deal with corralling people and working with systems, so she's more apt to be curt to get people to take a threat seriously. Ibuki feels more connected to the people he's saving, since he's risking his life to do it, so he's able to work with them to ensure their safety.
I don't know if that just made sense!
It made sense enough to me. Ibuki really is a pretty conventional Kamen Rider archetype huh?
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(Also, shit, Todoroki
is
great in this episode. That move where he flings his ax to explode the Douji, and then it falls onto the Hime to explode
it?
God damn! Not a big action-y episode, but that move was bonkers!)
That was a pretty bad*ss way to take out both of them with one throw!
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DreadBringer
Didn't realize that you replied on my post earlier. And altough you're spoiled with the conflict part of Faiz don't force to turn any other shows like Faiz? Like I said in previous reply...
"cynical tryhard edgy media with milktoast characters = good " mindset needs to stop, obviously not purge away those completely, but like, this aspect being hailed as something (or worse, considered the only way) to make something appear more complex than it actually is when it degrades and is pretentious in its attempt. Unless you meant for conflict being just any obstacles, struggles, and challenges a character need to overcome (like Asumu's story), then sure why not (like probably Akira being Ibuki's apprentice), which is also something I want to convey, that conflict isn't only toxic characters childishly infight all the time, so no need to degrade characters to create conflicts.
Oh for sure, I wouldn't want other shows to be just like Faiz. I appreciate that there are a lot of shows with qualities of their own and that's what makes them unique.
Yeah, I was talking about conflict in general, not necessary the dark and edgy kind. Every show is built on some kind of conflict with its own stakes to propel the plot forward. I think Hibiki usually does this just fine and making it more like Faiz is basically what happens later anyway which most people agree, myself included, is to its detriment.
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DreadBringer
Yeah there, for last sentence, I want to convey that conflict isn't only about characters acting uncontrollably childish and/or depraved, as you damn well know on Gaim. Like, Asumu's personal fight with the exam and what he try to do to overcome that is also a conflict.
You're right that conflict needs to serve a purpose in the story such as teaching a moral or as a catalyst for character development to justify it being there and not just to make it seem more complex than it really is. I definitely don't want Mochida to go full yandere and kill Akira or anything like that since Hibiki isn't that kind of show. The reason I complain about it is that the conflict is set up and resolved too quickly, like an anticlimax. I didn't feel like I learned anything from that.
Shounen studying for his exams is a conflict and one that is suitable for a regular high school student to have. It may not be the most exciting conflict in superhero genre but it can be more valuable for the moral and a more relatable parallel to the Oni's struggles.
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Also.. who says Mochida is the female lead? She's never that. The female lead is debated between Kasumi or Akira. Mochida is just that school friend character like the Nozomi in Blade, etc. And they're considered side characters.
Sorry if I was unclear, I meant that Akira is the female lead to Shounen. But yeah, Kasumi is the female lead overall, since she's the first girl in the credits. Mochida is as you say, just a side character.
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https://screenrant.com/why-video-game-movies-suck/
Yeah, this is a recurring trend to any video game adaptations. There are also bunch of other examples like other fighting games like Mortal Kombat, DOA, KoF, and Tekken, also Resident Evil, Silent Hill, etc.
With Tekken, are you referring to the two live action movies or the CGI movie Blood Vengeance? I thought the live action adaption sucked but Blood Vengeance was awesome and a nice prequel to Tekken 6.
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