[Kamen Rider Die]

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Ok. Mada mada. I've been in conflict within myself onto touching the 2nd half of Hibiki or not, it has taken a long time like this, and of course the people's feedback (and likely mine based on previous stance) of it for good reason, but probably regardless of that, more knowledge within KR stuff is important for discussions, but gotta skim through those in a less wasting time way.

Not sure how much I remember about shows I watched two weeks ago, but, sure! Let's try!

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oh god i honestly don't remember any of this

the episodes or what i wrote about them

i'm so sorry

I appreciate your responses, though!

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

It's sad to hear that you didn't feel strongly for Zanki's heroic last stand. If I had to praise Hibiki's second half for one thing, it would be bringing Zanki out of retirement and back in to the action. Other than the controversial Yobuko arc, I appreciated the direction of Zanki's and Todoroki's plot. Even after graduating and getting his Oni name, Todoroki always seemed like he was reluctant to go it alone, still trying to figure out his own style and depended on his comrades to carry him. Ending up in the same position as Zanki, badly wounded and told he couldn't henshin anymore, made him realize this.

Zanki was a hero who refused to let his imminent death stop him from helping his apprentice become his own person to the point that he was willing to gamble his soul, which gave Todoroki the strength and courage to be independent and give Zanki the opportunity to die on his own terms and save his soul. This was the end of Zanki and the true start of Todoroki.

I guess, for me, this whole Todoroki Is Injured arc felt like a worse version of the introductory Zanki/Todoroki arc? It's dealing with a lot of the same things (Zanki's injuries, Todoroki's dependency), except... all of that stuff got largely resolved in their first story? I felt like? What's here just feels like a lesser version, something that lacks the intriguing turns of the original. I don't know. Felt played out to me.

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Shounen doesn't know what he wants. Oni work behind the scenes of everyday life. It's a dangerous job that protects people from an unseen threat so they can keep enjoying life, unaware of the secret heroes who take risks for their sake. But there are more direct, simple ways to bring happiness, like Shounen granting a little girl's wish to see him perform his panel theater. His heart isn't in being an Oni and that's okay, cause he has his own way of life and Hibiki supports him becoming his best self, not succeeding his name. Kiriya doesn't understand that and feels insulted but it's also a sign that he respects Shounen in his own way, by judging his success based on whether or not he can surpass him.

Kiriya's father also had a dangerous job as a fireman and it cost him his life. Now that's the life Kiriya wants for himself as an Oni and he wants to be a hero who saves people. Even though he has a bad way of showing it, he cares about people and only acts cold to push them to be better. So it makes sense that he would be willing to take responsibility for his own mistakes if Hibiki points out he screwed up by dropping out of school. However, his speech about finding something he could dedicate himself to was genuine and unfortunately, his classmates probably think he's incredulous now. He's definitely had a lot of character development which I think not everybody appreciates how much he's willing to become a better person and while he's not naturally athletic like Shounen, he's training diligently and I think he's in a good place to succeed Hibiki.

Yeah, the Asumu and Kiriya part of the show is really working great. Well said!