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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Kabuto
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12-10-2020, 05:14 PM
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Kamen Rider Die
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DreadBringer
And you saying that it's OOC for Hiyori to try believing in Tendou... this is something that sometimes I find confusing within community discussions (sometimes to an irrational level); that is a character's change an OOC moment, or them starting to change and develop.
Yeah, to be clear, I'm saying that
Hiyori
considers her own generosity to Tendou to be an out-of-character moment. It's a sudden kind of growth that she's totally unprepared for.
Sometimes character growth is slow and incremental; here, it's this snap decision Hiyori makes. I really liked how the show (and the actor) approached it.
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DreadBringer
Well, for "kinder, gentler Tendou", majority of the jerk and mean anti-heroic Riders journey (which mostly are placed as secondary Riders) and development in the franchise are them becoming better person, Tendou is just one of the many.
In this episode, though, it felt more like a modulation of the writing than part of a character arc. (This doesn't feel like a story about
Tendou
re-examining his assumptions about characters?) It felt like someone watched the footage of the first few episodes and went Oh Shit This Guy Can Come Off Pretty Terrible. There's more consideration in the script for Tendou at least acknowledging the necessity of other people to achieve his goals and treating them with some baseline respect. It's a recalibration, maybe, of how to portray Tendou's character that has the writing start to match up with the performance.
(I mean, that's usually how it works on shows. The scripts for the first few episodes are written before anything's filmed, and the producers don't know how an actor will approach things. It's written toward the character. Once footage starts to come in, they start writing toward the performer, and that's when things can really get good.)
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DreadBringer
What do you think can be Misaki's plan for extracting usable info? I think her concern is mainly about someone outside of ZECT using Kabuto Zecter, and the only one to ensure safety is to know how's Tendou as a person herself. Tendou's superiority complex does make him unflappable towards anything, so much that Misaki seems like a tryhard for her screaming at his face.
Yeah, but it doesn't seem like she has any plan for getting info out of him? To paraphrase the Simpsons, she's tried nothing and she's all out of ideas. She folds her arms at Tendou's deflections and demands, but she's not offering any compelling reasons for him to divulge information. There's no promises, no threats, no battle of wills. She just sits there, getting more frustrated at him... not voluntarily explaining his secrets and backstory to the people who kidnapped him off the street?
And, like, I could see her being this bad at her job if she were being forced to do it, but Truegami specifically recruited her because she wanted to find out who Kabuto was and what he was up to. Now she's got him where she wants him and she's got
zero
plan of attack. And she's supposed to be the smart and capable one! Even
Kagami
figured out how to use a wind-up baby chick to distract a Zectrooper!
Misaki didn't even have that level of cunning!
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