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Originally Posted by Future Rider Prism

Yeah, he's seeing everything in black-and-white, and refusing to consider that Touma might be right. He's refusing to think in general, actually.

I might need to explain: I never meant to "excuse" what Ren was doing (though I can see how it might sound like that. oops). He's still very much the one in the wrong here. But I'm tired of people saying "I don't like this character, so the hero who wants to save people should go against everything the show stands for and murder them," and then getting mad when that doesn't happen.

I know I can't tell anyone how they should watch a show, and maybe I shouldn't have said anything at all. Maybe I've taken things too far. I'm not sure anymore.

I don't even like Ren that much. I just think there's more to the character than, "he's bad."

He's all Sword and no Logos. I don't think he's totally irredeemable yet. He sees what the Swordsmen do and associate that heroism with SOL. Likewise, he sees Kamijo's crimes and assumes he's evil, instead of someone with good motivations who just went way too far with the means. Loyalty is a desirable quality for a knight but unfortunately, Reika is using that to encourage the fighting. Rintarou has that quality as well but his reasons are more personal, conflicted between two sides of people he considers family and finds it difficult to have faith in Touma since it's a truth he doesn't want to hear. Ren just can't accept that Kento's killer was anything more than a bad guy which is a more shallow perspective.

Not sure where Ren's arc is going to end but it seems like a long road before he sees the error of his ways. Desast's talk about him has me concerned though. So far, Ren is very angry about hearing the "one of us" thing since he hates the Megid but when all his allies join the one he deems a traitor, the Megid might be only side he could turn to.

Anyway, you should totally say your opinions here. That's what a discussion thread is for.

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Originally Posted by Chasing

I was referring to the person who posted that being mentally ill. He's said so himself and his past few pages of posts are nothing but "kill Ren and/or Akiyama".

I've been checking the thread pretty regularly and I haven't seen Henshinzero mention anything about mental illness or killing Akiyama, who isn't even a character in this show. Besides, neither of us are really in a place to determine a real life person's capacity for reason. Maybe we should just talk about the show?