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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Den-O
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02-27-2021, 03:24 PM
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DreadBringer
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Kamen Rider Die
I guess I'm just looking to hear
from
Airi,
about
Airi. We know pretty well by now how she feels about Ryotaro. She's protective of him, but wishing he'd start to grow and change. She's waiting for him to discover his potential, to find some direction,
to find his lucky star
.
But what does she want for herself? Beyond being The Hero's Sister, what is it that she's working towards or passionate about? This was the first episode that started to dig out some space for Airi to think about her own needs and goals, which was nice.
Yeah, what does she want for herself wasn't touched upon yeah. But again, should something that is considered as a want for someone is something selfish unless it's someone who is a main Rider or someone made resembling that ideals like Keitaro in Faiz?
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Kamen Rider Die
I don't think the folks on the DenLiner are comparable to the folks in that restaurant from Blade, though. The Blade bystanders were just normal people, and that was a vicious monster battle. The DenLiner passengers... like, those two Imagin
live in that train car
. A train car that is hurtling through a dimension
outside of and constructed from
time itself. If they were going to get freaked out by two Imagin wrestling over shenanigans, they never should've been allowed to board that train in the first place!
DenLiner has already existed before the formation of Momotaros and Urataros, in the first episode. DenLiner was a restaurant in a train without any live Imagin before, Ryotaro is the one causing this change (not blaming Ryotaro), as he keeps the Imagins on a leash and by that, the Imagins are tagging along with Ryotaro in DenLiner. Urataros also appeared currently, there's only 1 live Imagin in the train before. Also this sounds like claiming Hana or the train Owner did wrong to stop their fight.
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Kamen Rider Die
KAMEN RIDER DEN-O EPISODE 8 - “SAD MELODY, LOVELY MEMORY”
Is it
really
better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all?
Yeah, to move on, that's something that is difficult, and it's easier said than done; people who don't know much about this can usually make this thing off as easier to console others (those who are not ready to face this yet). This is probably on me, but even moving on from something painful but not related to love also can be hard. But also, remembering the good can be even more painful that it's all for naught, but it depends on the person, if that's someone who has a very hard-earned affection, whenever love or something, to remember the good part, it can be more painful as it's just something temporary that is meant as a false hope in their life.
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And we don’t do that with last-minute superhero saves and time-travel adventures. We can’t fix ourselves with the intervention of imagination monsters from the end of time. Help isn’t coming in the form of a tokusatsu hero. We save ourselves
from ourselves
through time, real actual time. We do it with the kindness of strangers, with hard work and careful examination. There’s no trick to the reunion of Tomoya and Yuumi. Ryotato goes into the past to retrieve Tomoya’s necklace, but it’s unnecessary. It’s not up to Kamen Rider Den-O to save him or save Yuumi. They can save themselves, if they really want to. Rebuilding themselves into not just who they were, but who they were
and
who they had to become
and so much more
. The effort of that, of fixing
yourself
… it’s the most beautiful thing in the world. It’s why I started crying at the end of this episode. It’s a story that probably could’ve been told entirely without a superhero, but I’m so glad a superhero show told this story.
I think the superhero part in this episode is unrelated from the love story in this part. The time travel part is mostly about saving innocents endangered by the Imagin. The couple, probably will argue whenever the civilian in the church is attacked or not (and probably they wouldn't realize that the civilian is attacked). Probably the couple problem is resolved by the ruined necklace, which is non-Rider related? (and that's a good show of heroism, it's not just about saving lives, using that as a definition is too broad)
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Kamen Rider Die
THE BAGGAGE CAR
-Super great episode for Airi, even without the cryptic mention of her lost/repressed memories. (That bit was nice for bringing parity to her relationship with Ryotaro, where he’s clearly taking care of her as much as she’s taking care of him.) In the same way normal-guy Ryotaro is reaching out to Yuumi, Airi’s helping Tomoya figure out how to calm down and deal with his feelings. The relaxing tranquility of those Milk Dipper scenes… probably good for my anxiety! I get why this set is in the show, now!
Airi has a full charge of the restaurant. And probably her unknowingly... uh.. Airimirers attracting persona is used for a good effect in this episode where it calms down Tomoya ransacking the place. Airi being a dude magnet will be utterly effective as a male mediator.
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Kamen Rider Die
-There’re some interesting parallels between the Yuumi/Tomoya plot and the Ura/Momo feud, but the story only really commits to it 75% of the way. Ura and Momo are fighting constantly, until eventually Ryotaro uses them together tactically in the fight against the Crow Imagin. (A really great fight, incidentally!) It’s not really a thing where Ura and Momo have an understanding or anything, which is why it’s only 75% of the way to a good plotline, but it’s nice to see them get a co-op win. If I really stretched, I could make a point about how Ura and Momo similarly figured out how to move forward instead of being mired in pointless antagonism and recriminations, but: it would be a stretch.
I don't think that Ryotaro uses them together in the Imagin fight, both of them trying to possess Ryotaro simultaneously doesn't work. It was still about Momotaros failing to fight a flying enemy, but then Ryotaro in desperation finally calls out Urataros, as Rod Form has a long range to catch someone far away. It's Ryotaro's call to use Momotaros or Urataros. Ryotaro is doing something Riders with multiple forms, and in a good way to utilize their powers, do to gain upper hand on the monster.
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Kamen Rider Die
-Another
hilarious
episode for physical comedy. There was that gif I posted earlier, that starts with Ryotaro getting run over by another tricycle, but there’s also that whole train car brawl between Ura and Momo. Naomi’s enthusiasm for their violence was matched by mine, I assure you.
Enthusiasm for violence is a root of people bashing at Ryotaro for being a loser and someone who prefers not to fight, or someone like Shinji in Kobayashi's previous Ryuki for choosing not to fight and kill (and NGE Shinji's derogatory meme is used here sometimes which is "get in the robot Shinji" and turned into "fight in the war Shinji"), or like from Hibiki thread, judging characters serving in a non-violence related role. Also non-violence solution will be looked down as something meaningless, like Ryotaro to Yuumi here, or Ryotaro to Tetsuo before, which also leads to only considering those heroic being someone who saves others by fighting evil (neglecting personality part, like considering someone who is fighting evildoers as hero, but not if someone powerless does heroic things).
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